Sexist and childish posts!!!
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You can't compare the Internet to a gentleman's/officer's club. I can't tell if you were wearing your collar and tie when you posted, but I know that I wouldn't be able to chat in my dressing gown in the Running Horse in the Piccadilly club.
Anyway, I doubt very much that I would be able to talk freely on all subjects in the Royal Air Force Club. I certainly wouldn't be able to do some of the things that I used to do in the Officers' Mess at Happy Hour, and flying suits are most definitely not allowed.
A chat room is a special place where anonymity rules (usually) and we can sit naked and talk to each other if we want.
I do agree, however, with the view that no-one can apologise for the actions of anybody else. I never set out to offend, but if someone finds what I say offensive it may be more to do with their sensitivity than any perceived or real rudeness on my part.
Finally, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I really wish they could learn to spell, type and write correct English.
(Edited to correct the deliberate error!!)
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You can't compare the Internet to a gentleman's/officer's club. I can't tell if you were wearing your collar and tie when you posted, but I know that I wouldn't be able to chat in my dressing gown in the Running Horse in the Piccadilly club.
Anyway, I doubt very much that I would be able to talk freely on all subjects in the Royal Air Force Club. I certainly wouldn't be able to do some of the things that I used to do in the Officers' Mess at Happy Hour, and flying suits are most definitely not allowed.
A chat room is a special place where anonymity rules (usually) and we can sit naked and talk to each other if we want.
I do agree, however, with the view that no-one can apologise for the actions of anybody else. I never set out to offend, but if someone finds what I say offensive it may be more to do with their sensitivity than any perceived or real rudeness on my part.
Finally, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I really wish they could learn to spell, type and write correct English.
(Edited to correct the deliberate error!!)
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NNT, and so "they" can learn if they are set a good example (by the likes of you) and if they are allowed to gain confidence while making their mistakes. It benefits no-one if they are berated for every error - unless they are pretending to be something they are obviously not.
As for "Chat" well, tried that and can't say I see the attraction clothes on or off!
You may infer that I am, er, getting on a bit and have had a lot to do with teaching the young - mine and other people's.
As for "Chat" well, tried that and can't say I see the attraction clothes on or off!
You may infer that I am, er, getting on a bit and have had a lot to do with teaching the young - mine and other people's.
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It's only a desire to see an improvement.
When trying to communicate it's always worth taking time to articulate your points so that your entire audience can understand them. I only pull people up if they take potshots at others, but it does amaze me that individuals talk about their A-levels, degrees, licences and commissions, yet can't differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' or 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.
It's also interesting to see that quite a few of the 'sexist' and 'childish' posts are well presented, although many are not. I suspect it is something to do with the jocose badinage that Mr PC 66 cannot fully understand.
The thing that really gets my goat, however, is the abusive and insulting posts that are poorly punctuated, carelessly typed, badly spelt and that display a standard of grammar that belongs in the kindergarten. Usually these posts are delivered by multi-engine co-pilots after a bad happy hour.
You know who you are!
Edited for one sodding comma!!!
Edited again for an apostrophe.
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It's only a desire to see an improvement.
When trying to communicate it's always worth taking time to articulate your points so that your entire audience can understand them. I only pull people up if they take potshots at others, but it does amaze me that individuals talk about their A-levels, degrees, licences and commissions, yet can't differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' or 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.
It's also interesting to see that quite a few of the 'sexist' and 'childish' posts are well presented, although many are not. I suspect it is something to do with the jocose badinage that Mr PC 66 cannot fully understand.
The thing that really gets my goat, however, is the abusive and insulting posts that are poorly punctuated, carelessly typed, badly spelt and that display a standard of grammar that belongs in the kindergarten. Usually these posts are delivered by multi-engine co-pilots after a bad happy hour.
You know who you are!Edited for one sodding comma!!!
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Yes indeed, NNT, those commas can be tricky and should be sorted out promptly because, when we stand in judgement over others' efforts, we have to be near perfect ourselves.
Apostrophes can catch the best of us out, too. Nudge, nudge, know wot I mean?
Apostrophes can catch the best of us out, too. Nudge, nudge,
know wot I mean?
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Britannia66, you ask that senior officers do something about the childish and sexist behaviour. So, okay chaps (and chappesses) this is an order:
Behave! Moderate your language, stop being silly. No more banter, no more sexist behaviour, no more childish pranks.
There - done.
Now what was the point of that?
Do you think it will work in a body of men and women spread throughout hundreds of locations across the face of the planet, drawn from all walks of society and committed to defending @rseholes like you at risk to their own short lives? Why should people who risk being killed on a daily basis in Iraq, Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Ireland or wherever not have a laugh at the expense of somebody more fortunate than themselves?
To be perfectly frank, Brit66, it shouldn't matter a t*ss to those in positions of authority that the troops behave like the society that they protect. Do you check out the attitudes of the people you fly out to the Costa del Vauxhall car worker? Does your company interfere with the leisure time activities of its employees to the extent that it dictates what they may or may not post on a private bulletin board? Have you read the latest Human Rights Act on private behaviour? How would you expect senior officers to patrol the 'Military Aircrew' forum without compromising the anonymity of the members? Do you realise that, as has been pointed out, half the posters have probably never been 'Military Aircrew'? Do you expect the senior officers of the US and Australian Armed Forces to follow the threads as well?
The order posted above might just about be legal in the working environment, but any soldier, sailor or airman ordered not to post a 'sexist' joke on PPrune would have every right to sue.
In conclusion, Brit66, you are wrong to ask senior officers to moderate the private lives of servicemen. If I were the real CDS, which I'm probably not, I would say to you: 'Poo, with a strawberry on top! You are a great big girl's blouse, or the contents of the top part thereof! If women had their legs on the right way up they wouldn't become WAAFs in the first place!!! Baaaah!!!'
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Behave! Moderate your language, stop being silly. No more banter, no more sexist behaviour, no more childish pranks.
There - done.
Now what was the point of that?
Do you think it will work in a body of men and women spread throughout hundreds of locations across the face of the planet, drawn from all walks of society and committed to defending @rseholes like you at risk to their own short lives? Why should people who risk being killed on a daily basis in Iraq, Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Ireland or wherever not have a laugh at the expense of somebody more fortunate than themselves?
To be perfectly frank, Brit66, it shouldn't matter a t*ss to those in positions of authority that the troops behave like the society that they protect. Do you check out the attitudes of the people you fly out to the Costa del Vauxhall car worker? Does your company interfere with the leisure time activities of its employees to the extent that it dictates what they may or may not post on a private bulletin board? Have you read the latest Human Rights Act on private behaviour? How would you expect senior officers to patrol the 'Military Aircrew' forum without compromising the anonymity of the members? Do you realise that, as has been pointed out, half the posters have probably never been 'Military Aircrew'? Do you expect the senior officers of the US and Australian Armed Forces to follow the threads as well?
The order posted above might just about be legal in the working environment, but any soldier, sailor or airman ordered not to post a 'sexist' joke on PPrune would have every right to sue.
In conclusion, Brit66, you are wrong to ask senior officers to moderate the private lives of servicemen. If I were the real CDS, which I'm probably not, I would say to you: 'Poo, with a strawberry on top! You are a great big girl's blouse, or the contents of the top part thereof! If women had their legs on the right way up they wouldn't become WAAFs in the first place!!! Baaaah!!!'
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Beags,
you've got to help me here-
You say you know colleagues who have left this 'anonymous' forum for fear of being associated with etc etc....
Smart colleagues, next time they submit to threads on an 'anon forum', may I suggest that they don't submit their personal details :-)
Get those pencils and underpants ready.
you've got to help me here-
You say you know colleagues who have left this 'anonymous' forum for fear of being associated with etc etc....
Smart colleagues, next time they submit to threads on an 'anon forum', may I suggest that they don't submit their personal details :-)
Get those pencils and underpants ready.
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Nil Nos,
Can we all please try and get a life. If you have nothing else to worry about in the world, other than the correct use of grammer,punctuation and articulation, then I envy you. If you want to spend time worring if you've got it right then thats up to you, but instead of looking at other peoples messages for poxy mistakes, when most people don't even proof read messages like this before they send them, then you will miss the message (even though you might spot the mistake.
Are you all ex ISS tutors??
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Can we all please try and get a life. If you have nothing else to worry about in the world, other than the correct use of grammer,punctuation and articulation, then I envy you. If you want to spend time worring if you've got it right then thats up to you, but instead of looking at other peoples messages for poxy mistakes, when most people don't even proof read messages like this before they send them, then you will miss the message (even though you might spot the mistake.
Are you all ex ISS tutors??
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Friends, this thread has run its course and should be allowed to fade a way. But first:
CDS? Is he Okay now? He did appear to have missed his lunch-time medicine the other day. Worrying to see that a man with such power can get so excited. But I agree with everthing he said.
Sc-U-L, yes but not if "peoples" is plural as in the sentence:
"The African Peoples' Curse of the 21st Century will be AIDS".
And, of course, As in Officers' Mess rather than Officer's Mess (quoth NNT); he hasn't taken my hint.
Now, I don't give a big rat's arse which way it is spelled here in this informal place as long as the writer's meaning is clear (if (s)he has a worthwhile point or (s)he is being (trying to be) funny).
Try this link to a short and clear exposition.
http://ebony.open.ac.uk/english/sect5/apostrophe.htm
Or, do what I'm going to do and that is go to the 'fridge and get a cold beer. Cheers!
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CDS? Is he Okay now? He did appear to have missed his lunch-time medicine the other day. Worrying to see that a man with such power can get so excited. But I agree with everthing he said.
Sc-U-L, yes but not if "peoples" is plural as in the sentence:
"The African Peoples' Curse of the 21st Century will be AIDS".
And, of course, As in Officers' Mess rather than Officer's Mess (quoth NNT); he hasn't taken my hint.
Now, I don't give a big rat's arse which way it is spelled here in this informal place as long as the writer's meaning is clear (if (s)he has a worthwhile point or (s)he is being (trying to be) funny).
Try this link to a short and clear exposition.
http://ebony.open.ac.uk/english/sect5/apostrophe.htm
Or, do what I'm going to do and that is go to the 'fridge and get a cold beer. Cheers!
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*Blushes*. Could I plead guilty to a digital double-tap?
fobotcso
If I might go some way to redeeming myself, may I suggest you read the link to which you refer. If the noun is plural, but does not end with an s (e.g. people), then the apostrophe still comes at the end of the word, but is followed by an s. Hence "people's messages" and "African people's curse".
"Officer" is a singular noun. If, owing to ever-plummeting morale, there were only one officer left in the Mess, it would be the Officer's Mess. Whilst CAS keeps waving the wonga, however, it will remain the Officers' Mess.
See. People in glass houses can throw stones!
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*Blushes*. Could I plead guilty to a digital double-tap?
fobotcso
If I might go some way to redeeming myself, may I suggest you read the link to which you refer. If the noun is plural, but does not end with an s (e.g. people), then the apostrophe still comes at the end of the word, but is followed by an s. Hence "people's messages" and "African people's curse".
"Officer" is a singular noun. If, owing to ever-plummeting morale, there were only one officer left in the Mess, it would be the Officer's Mess. Whilst CAS keeps waving the wonga, however, it will remain the Officers' Mess.
See. People in glass houses can throw stones!
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God, that beer was good!
Now, Sc-U-L, yes "people" is plural as a group noun (we would say the people are revolting) and singular as in The English People (single entity).
Then you come to The English Speaking Peoples - giving you the plural of the group noun. The possessive "Peoples'" is Okay. (I hope you're following this..!)
Oh bugger, just click on this link, which was one of 320,000+ that I got from a search using Google on "Peoples uk".
http://africancultures.about.com/cul...ples/index.htm
A world wide search turned up 1,400,000+. Too many for my litle brain to take in at this hour. And anyway the nurse is coming to take me away. So I'll leave you with it.
Now, Sc-U-L, yes "people" is plural as a group noun (we would say the people are revolting) and singular as in The English People (single entity).
Then you come to The English Speaking Peoples - giving you the plural of the group noun. The possessive "Peoples'" is Okay. (I hope you're following this..!)
Oh bugger, just click on this link, which was one of 320,000+ that I got from a search using Google on "Peoples uk".
http://africancultures.about.com/cul...ples/index.htm
A world wide search turned up 1,400,000+. Too many for my litle brain to take in at this hour. And anyway the nurse is coming to take me away. So I'll leave you with it.
