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Old 1st Dec 2001, 01:14
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You don't have to be a civilian to kill people or a soldier to be a conscientious objector.

Half (at least) of those in the armed forces (particularly AAC) DIDN'T join to fight wars and defend the country they joined because it was a job they fancied doing!

We all know it.

And while I'm on the subject, why do some (who don't) think they own this website, fancy sending emails to Danny (oo Danny we luv you) to complain.

You sad B******s!
 
Old 1st Dec 2001, 01:19
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Surely the function of the RAF is, as its name states, to exert force. If you object to doing that, fly civvy.
(Flatus Veteranus)

So is it ROYAL then?, other than in name?

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Old 1st Dec 2001, 15:40
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I don't know whom one swears allegiance to on attesting these days. But in my day it was to the King, his heirs and successors, and the officers set over me by him. To me that makes it the ROYAL Air Force. Atlee, Churchill, Wilson et alnever figured in my allegiance!
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Moggie,

Sorry, all the jobs for people with learning difficulties in the MoD are already taken.

Broadsword,

I fear you confuse EO with PC. EO is just what it says Equal Opportunities, whereas PC is minority rule.

Even under EO legislation, there is provision for disallowing an applicant where there is a Health and Safety implication or where their disability/limitation renders them genuinely unsuited to the job.

By the way, when is CTC being adapted to take wheelchairs?
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Old 3rd Dec 2001, 02:52
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In my view there are only two groups of people who should be allowed to be conchies in the military - the medics (doc, dentists, nurses etc.) and padres. These are the only peple who can guarantee that they will always be in non-combatant roles and as such their conchies status is irrelevant. In fact, of course, they are prevented from filling combatant roles by the oaths/vows taken to become a member of their cjosen vocation.

Anyone else who sees themselves as a conchie should get out - you are in under false pretences and your views (whilst valid in civvy life) could place you and a great number of other people in mortal peril.

If those views are held for religious, humanist, philosophical or squeamish reasons, those underlying reasons are irrelevant - it is the final implication that matters. If you are unable to place yourself in a position where you may have to kill, become a vicar, doctor, dentist, nurse or leave.

If those beliefs developed in service - then I am sorry but the forces are no longer for you. If you held them before you joined - why the he;; did you sign up?

I did not join the RAF to kill people (although I sometimes felt like doing it when dealing with Supply Sqn) but I accepted that as a trade of for doing what I really wanted - military flying. I ended up in jobs that meant I could be killed but not hit back - now I think that is thw worst of both worlds!
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