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From the looks of things, those people who have passed their 33rd birthday before 1 Apr 02 get £22,000 (taxed obviously) for the 4 full years left to serve upto 38/16 - can anyone confirm this please ?
At the meating I attended at the Secret Oxfordshire Airbase, the jolly nice chap who explained matters took great pains to explain that, whilst this particularannouncement of retention incentives covers specifically Officer Aircrew, another review is also being conducted concerning non-Officer Aircrew. The 2002 Pay Award is not specifically targetted at retention incentives for aircrew, fairly obviously, and there is a very high priority bring put on non-remunerative retention incentives (e.g. quality of life concerns) for everyone.
Personally, although I've little to gain from it, I think that it is an excellent device to encourage Officer aircrew retention - I'm sure that the non-Officer aircrew retention incentives will be equally well thought out
Personally, although I've little to gain from it, I think that it is an excellent device to encourage Officer aircrew retention - I'm sure that the non-Officer aircrew retention incentives will be equally well thought out
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BEagle,
Valid points about old MOL and his FO renumeration, especially where Stavros is concerned, I doubt if a salary war will break out among the low fare boys though.
FRI seems to be a fairly good deal, taxman should be especially pleased (I assume that the sums quoted are gross?.
Has it kept anyone in I wonder? Will it work in five years time when the situation might be just a little different?
Suit......
Valid points about old MOL and his FO renumeration, especially where Stavros is concerned, I doubt if a salary war will break out among the low fare boys though.
FRI seems to be a fairly good deal, taxman should be especially pleased (I assume that the sums quoted are gross?.
Has it kept anyone in I wonder? Will it work in five years time when the situation might be just a little different?
Suit......
Package sounds pretty good and should work for some but I wonder what it will do for morale amongst other branches and ground trades? Good to see flt lt and sqn ldr pay leaping away at 4.2% though!
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Again this smax of an incentive for the boyz, devized by the boyz i.e. Pilots-n-Navs.. .The grown-ups have piled the non FJ world in with the rest of the so called targeted branches and included Officer GD AENG, AEO and ALM ? Where did they think that the other rearcrew officers were going to(NAV excluded)?? You have to be joking if you think that they had somewhere better to go, (generally speaking).
Not one of you can tell me why the "Aircrew" retention scheme, for all aircrew as it has been long publisised, failed to address a financial package (appropriate to us) to be implemented today. They could have saved themselves a few PVR's by advising us earlier that our scheme would be in 6 mths or so.
I personally feel betrayed and led along the garden path.
The presidence has now been set, professional aircrew, which is all that we were recruited to be and still are, is now to be paid as a salary without flying pay i.e. effectively flying pay is pensionable. This is what the professional NCO aircrew must ensure happens to us at our review. Not just a quick 10k or 15k bung, which we will have to give nearly half back to the treasury.
We need to address these concerns now, collectively as NCO Aircrew and not let them drag this out for long, as they are sure to try. We must have a date in the short term i.e. 6 mths for all to be revealed. Then we'll see if they can cope with a retention problem.
£45k as a train driver, on top of my pension. What do you think is going to happen?
Ginger Beer, only in dark-n-stormy's.
Not one of you can tell me why the "Aircrew" retention scheme, for all aircrew as it has been long publisised, failed to address a financial package (appropriate to us) to be implemented today. They could have saved themselves a few PVR's by advising us earlier that our scheme would be in 6 mths or so.
I personally feel betrayed and led along the garden path.
The presidence has now been set, professional aircrew, which is all that we were recruited to be and still are, is now to be paid as a salary without flying pay i.e. effectively flying pay is pensionable. This is what the professional NCO aircrew must ensure happens to us at our review. Not just a quick 10k or 15k bung, which we will have to give nearly half back to the treasury.
We need to address these concerns now, collectively as NCO Aircrew and not let them drag this out for long, as they are sure to try. We must have a date in the short term i.e. 6 mths for all to be revealed. Then we'll see if they can cope with a retention problem.
£45k as a train driver, on top of my pension. What do you think is going to happen?
Ginger Beer, only in dark-n-stormy's.
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If we are not to get a re-munerative package, then the ONLY possible consideration for SNCO AEOps / WSOps is to move MR2P / MRA4 to St Mawgan.
42(TB)Sqn is not dead - just resting......
Hot oggies n warm Cornish Best again......
Seriously - the "powers that be" are "asking" for a hammering between 2004 to 2006 when most "coldwar" AEOps were recruited. Specifically Option time - 3 years to go and counting...
MRA4 has a far more serious problem than industry setbacks and project slippages - potential lack of SNCO rearcrew to man it!
42(TB)Sqn is not dead - just resting......
Hot oggies n warm Cornish Best again......
Seriously - the "powers that be" are "asking" for a hammering between 2004 to 2006 when most "coldwar" AEOps were recruited. Specifically Option time - 3 years to go and counting...
MRA4 has a far more serious problem than industry setbacks and project slippages - potential lack of SNCO rearcrew to man it!
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Big Green Arrow
I'm sure I saw a slide which had a reducing scale depending on how many years you have left to serve before 38/16. Anybody else see that slide ? Surely Beagle did not miss that one !?!?
TIA LR
I'm sure I saw a slide which had a reducing scale depending on how many years you have left to serve before 38/16. Anybody else see that slide ? Surely Beagle did not miss that one !?!?
TIA LR
Champagne anyone...?
BGA. .The amount you recieve depends the length of time left before your 16/38 point: 5yrs = £30K, 4yrs = £22K, 3yrs = £14K, 2yrs = £5K, 1yr = £0. The idea being if you take the cash then a PVR before your 16/38 point will require repayment of some or all of the cash (pre-tax amount).. .The £50K figure is paid at your 16/38 point if you agree to sign for a further 5 years.
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Ooooops..........almost forgot.........
Admin Guru - today you have hopefully realised how much you are valued - what was your retention payment ????!?!?!?!
Try not to spend it all at once........
Admin Guru - today you have hopefully realised how much you are valued - what was your retention payment ????!?!?!?!
Try not to spend it all at once........
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As far as the work of the AARWG is concerned their work is "complete". It will be interesting to see the findings of the non-remuneration measures for NCO rear crew types..I suspect they are already finalised, but held back until they collect the second part of FRI 2!! and the dust settles on the commissioned package.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Out of interest (as someone long gone), hgow does this affect to FCs as rear crew in the E3D? I can see p****d off SNCO controllers if the officcers get it and they don't. I can also see either even more of a marked reluctance to going back to the ADGE and it getting very ugly to try and get on it!!
Champagne anyone...?
Just to add to my last, taking LINKUP will be offset against any retention lump sum you may receive.
EESDL. .I hear you're having a ball down there? Just spoke to your comrade (Directional Consultant) and as a result I'm sending down a fresh supply of pins for you to stick in your eyes. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
EESDL. .I hear you're having a ball down there? Just spoke to your comrade (Directional Consultant) and as a result I'm sending down a fresh supply of pins for you to stick in your eyes. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">