Large Station Closure!!!???
P'rhaps their Airships don't know, but lots of large aircraft plus lots of needed support staff equals large expensive base.
So lets add to the expense by closing it down, moving it elsewhere and making the new base as large and expensive as the one we just left.
Makes sense to me!
Doc C
So lets add to the expense by closing it down, moving it elsewhere and making the new base as large and expensive as the one we just left.
Makes sense to me!
Doc C
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I imagine Gordon Brown has done some quick sums on the price of land (with planning consent) in Oxford and Wilts and compared it with (eg) Lincoln, where there seem to be at least two under-utilised airfields where many large aircraft used to be based. He thinks he can make a killing by flogging off BZN and LYE.
Personally I think it obscene that any more large scale residential developments can be contemplated in Southern England, where the crowding and crumbling infrastructure are a disgrace. I believe that military airfields, which are less intensively utilised then their civvy counterparts, are less damaging to the rural environment than residential devlopments, and I have written to warn the Campaign for the Preservation of Rural England (CPRE), of which I am a member.
When I was in Plans at Strike (ha! ha!) we used to defend St Mawgan (and Manston and Lossie) by insisting on having a MDA at the extremities of the Island, on the basis that however badly Met screwed up, they could not conjure up a weather system that put these three airfields out at the same time.
Personally I think it obscene that any more large scale residential developments can be contemplated in Southern England, where the crowding and crumbling infrastructure are a disgrace. I believe that military airfields, which are less intensively utilised then their civvy counterparts, are less damaging to the rural environment than residential devlopments, and I have written to warn the Campaign for the Preservation of Rural England (CPRE), of which I am a member.
When I was in Plans at Strike (ha! ha!) we used to defend St Mawgan (and Manston and Lossie) by insisting on having a MDA at the extremities of the Island, on the basis that however badly Met screwed up, they could not conjure up a weather system that put these three airfields out at the same time.
OK so why close Lyneham ? Never was much good a Perf A but as I remember Lye is built
on a hill with a big drop at one end and
a main road and housing at the other. The
main runway is short by modern standards and
has no room to be significantly lengthened.
When the A400M arrives, would it have the
max-mass performance to compensate for the
runway length at Lye ? Better surely to put
it into Bzn with a much longer not to mention wider runway; while we are at it why
not pop the J's in there as well - keep all
the AT assets together with a tad of tanking
thrown in.
James Gray MP quite naturally is looking for
headlines in respect of job closures at Lye.
I would suggest however that it is more than
likely that the Army would move in thus MOD
be able to dispose of Hullavington and South
Cerney for commercial/residential development. The airfield facilities at Lye
would be kept intact a la Honnington and Wattisham - nice and handy for exercises on
the Plain.
One thing is for certain - any sign of major
rebuilding is certain to guarantee closure
as my stints at Fenton and Chivenor in days
gone by proved quite clearly.
on a hill with a big drop at one end and
a main road and housing at the other. The
main runway is short by modern standards and
has no room to be significantly lengthened.
When the A400M arrives, would it have the
max-mass performance to compensate for the
runway length at Lye ? Better surely to put
it into Bzn with a much longer not to mention wider runway; while we are at it why
not pop the J's in there as well - keep all
the AT assets together with a tad of tanking
thrown in.
James Gray MP quite naturally is looking for
headlines in respect of job closures at Lye.
I would suggest however that it is more than
likely that the Army would move in thus MOD
be able to dispose of Hullavington and South
Cerney for commercial/residential development. The airfield facilities at Lye
would be kept intact a la Honnington and Wattisham - nice and handy for exercises on
the Plain.
One thing is for certain - any sign of major
rebuilding is certain to guarantee closure
as my stints at Fenton and Chivenor in days
gone by proved quite clearly.
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Surely st Mawgan should be the one to go? What it is ACTUALLY used for that could not be done from BZN or LYE?
You could build a real holiday camp on it and that would put more money into the local economy than the current, MoD holiday camp does!
it is only about 15min closer to the Atlantic than LYE and a damn sight closer than KSS.
If you add up the figures, shutting LYE or BZN doesn't tally - 50 or so Hercs/A400M. Half a dozen C17, 15 or so tankers and you could put the Nimrods in there, too, if wanted.
So, pull out of Cornwall (or better still, pull out of Wales and give the Hawks that lovely big runway to play with - easy formation landings!).
You could build a real holiday camp on it and that would put more money into the local economy than the current, MoD holiday camp does!
it is only about 15min closer to the Atlantic than LYE and a damn sight closer than KSS.
If you add up the figures, shutting LYE or BZN doesn't tally - 50 or so Hercs/A400M. Half a dozen C17, 15 or so tankers and you could put the Nimrods in there, too, if wanted.
So, pull out of Cornwall (or better still, pull out of Wales and give the Hawks that lovely big runway to play with - easy formation landings!).
Yes but Moggie there is something rather big, rather complex and rather American underneath RAF St Mawgan that rather precludes it from becoming a Butlins. Good move for the poor souls stuck up in Ice Station Kilo though...
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Vasco dead on the money!
Close bzn give it to branson or whoever
Move the kipper back to their favourite home
and move the tankas n trukas to ice station kilo.
They have had to nice for too long
Close bzn give it to branson or whoever
Move the kipper back to their favourite home
and move the tankas n trukas to ice station kilo.
They have had to nice for too long
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Read Desert Crash's post Disposal of Lyneham
Only profit for MoD at Brize
Wish I could get the add url thingey right 1st time!
[ 30 November 2001: Message edited by: Pom Pax ]
Only profit for MoD at Brize
Wish I could get the add url thingey right 1st time!
[ 30 November 2001: Message edited by: Pom Pax ]
