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Hi everyone,
Sqn Ldr Robert Burke, the former RAF Odiham test pilot has been asked to return to the House of Lords to give further evidence. He has been asked to reappear before their Lordships on the Select Committee on 14 January.
It is believed that Sqn Ldr Burke will be asked (amongst other things) how serious were the problems with the in-flight computers at the time of the accident, and how much space it took to turn a Chinook around.
Updates as and when
Regards as always
Brian
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Sqn Ldr Robert Burke, the former RAF Odiham test pilot has been asked to return to the House of Lords to give further evidence. He has been asked to reappear before their Lordships on the Select Committee on 14 January.
It is believed that Sqn Ldr Burke will be asked (amongst other things) how serious were the problems with the in-flight computers at the time of the accident, and how much space it took to turn a Chinook around.
Updates as and when
Regards as always
Brian
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Stand down, stand down.
Brian Dixon read a newspaper article and got all excited. Sqn Ldr Burke is not appearing before their Lordships as reported above. I think he has supplied further written reports.
Sincere apologies to all. A genuine mistake on my part. <img src="redface.gif" border="0">
In the meantime, I have found a great quote for the Air Marshals and MoD:
"How often is it still true - that what we need is not fresh evidence, but fuller understanding of what we have already" - J H B Masterman 1959.
Again, sorry for the duff gen.
I'll post again when I know what I'm talking about!!
Regards as always
Brian
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Brian Dixon read a newspaper article and got all excited. Sqn Ldr Burke is not appearing before their Lordships as reported above. I think he has supplied further written reports.
Sincere apologies to all. A genuine mistake on my part. <img src="redface.gif" border="0">
In the meantime, I have found a great quote for the Air Marshals and MoD:
"How often is it still true - that what we need is not fresh evidence, but fuller understanding of what we have already" - J H B Masterman 1959.
Again, sorry for the duff gen.
I'll post again when I know what I'm talking about!!
Regards as always
Brian
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Not long to go now, before their Lordships conclude their inquiry.
Back to the top of the thread too!
Regards as always
Brian
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Back to the top of the thread too!
Regards as always
Brian
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Hi again everyone,
In order to progress a line of enquiry with the campaign, I wonder if anyone would be able to provide any information regarding the following two fatal aircraft accidents:
1. Crash of a Buccaneer S2B, lost in the North Sea, 38nm East of Leuchars on 09/07/92. Two souls lost.
2. Crash of a Wessex HC2, lost at Llyn Padern, Gwynedd on 12/08/93. Three souls lost.
I'm particularly looking for the cause of the accident in each incident.
There is no wish to open old wounds and apologies in advance to any offended by this post. May be better to reply to this using my e-mail address if you feel it appropriate.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards as always
Brian
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In order to progress a line of enquiry with the campaign, I wonder if anyone would be able to provide any information regarding the following two fatal aircraft accidents:
1. Crash of a Buccaneer S2B, lost in the North Sea, 38nm East of Leuchars on 09/07/92. Two souls lost.
2. Crash of a Wessex HC2, lost at Llyn Padern, Gwynedd on 12/08/93. Three souls lost.
I'm particularly looking for the cause of the accident in each incident.
There is no wish to open old wounds and apologies in advance to any offended by this post. May be better to reply to this using my e-mail address if you feel it appropriate.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards as always
Brian
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Oh well...
I got all excited that Sqn Ldr Robert Burke would be back, but no.
By complete chance, he was on BBC Parliament on the only day I looked.
B£oody marvelous, what an advert for the RAF.
I got all excited that Sqn Ldr Robert Burke would be back, but no.
By complete chance, he was on BBC Parliament on the only day I looked.
B£oody marvelous, what an advert for the RAF.
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I have moved the chinook campaign website to a new server today. Anyone accesing it through the url <a href="http://www.chinook-justice.org" target="_blank">www.chinook-justice.org</a> shouldn't see any difference, but anyone using the previous address should update their bookmarks.
And of course, anyone who feels the urge to sign the petition is still more than welcome to do so.
And of course, anyone who feels the urge to sign the petition is still more than welcome to do so.
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I think the first week in Feb looks favourite for some sort of announcement.
Updates as and when.. .Regards as always. .Brian. ."Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
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The original date was the 31 Jan, however it was moved back a few days.. .There is a press conference booked for 5th Feb, so watch this space!
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Scotland on Sunday 27 Jan 2002
Chinook accuser eyed to run RAF
BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR
. .A DEFENCE chief who controversially blamed two dead pilots for the Mull of Kintyre helicopter disaster is being groomed for the top job in the Royal Air Force.
Air Marshal Sir John Day and a senior colleague ruled that pilot error caused the 1994 Chinook disaster. The decision outraged the families of the dead pilots, who accused the RAF of ignoring its own rule that dead air crew cannot be blamed unless there is absolutely no doubt.
Despite the continuing controversy, Day has been revealed by military insiders as favourite to be the next chief of the air staff, second only to the chief of defence staff in the military hierarchy.
But campaigners fighting to clear the names of Flight Lieutenants Richard Cook and Jonathan Tapper last night warned that Day’s career could be in ruins if a House of Lords inquiry into the Chinook disaster overturns his findings, and the Ministry of Defence subsequently fails to quash its verdict in the case.
The crash of Zulu Delta 576 claimed 29 lives, including the cream of Northern Ireland’s anti-terrorism community.
The House of Lords committee that has been looking at the case is expected early next month to conclude that Day was wrong to blame the pilots.
The five-strong panel of senior peers, led by Lord Jauncey, spent three months taking evidence from witnesses, including Day.
Day stuck to his original position during questioning, although he told the Lords committee the ruling was "the most difficult decision I have had to make in my whole career".
Despite Day’s evidence, the committee is understood to believe that mechanical failure may have contributed to the crash. Such a finding would undermine Day’s verdict that pilot error caused the crash ‘beyond any doubt’.
Last night, the pilots’ families declined to comment about Day in advance of the committee report.
But Lord Chalfont, chair of the all-party Mull of Kintyre group, which led the campaign for a Lords inquiry, said: "I have heard it suggested that Sir John is the most likely candidate for the top job in the RAF.
"Obviously if this inquiry went against him it might affect his career.
"I don’t believe it should do so - as long as the MoD now accepts that his decision was a mistake."
Chinook accuser eyed to run RAF
BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR
. .A DEFENCE chief who controversially blamed two dead pilots for the Mull of Kintyre helicopter disaster is being groomed for the top job in the Royal Air Force.
Air Marshal Sir John Day and a senior colleague ruled that pilot error caused the 1994 Chinook disaster. The decision outraged the families of the dead pilots, who accused the RAF of ignoring its own rule that dead air crew cannot be blamed unless there is absolutely no doubt.
Despite the continuing controversy, Day has been revealed by military insiders as favourite to be the next chief of the air staff, second only to the chief of defence staff in the military hierarchy.
But campaigners fighting to clear the names of Flight Lieutenants Richard Cook and Jonathan Tapper last night warned that Day’s career could be in ruins if a House of Lords inquiry into the Chinook disaster overturns his findings, and the Ministry of Defence subsequently fails to quash its verdict in the case.
The crash of Zulu Delta 576 claimed 29 lives, including the cream of Northern Ireland’s anti-terrorism community.
The House of Lords committee that has been looking at the case is expected early next month to conclude that Day was wrong to blame the pilots.
The five-strong panel of senior peers, led by Lord Jauncey, spent three months taking evidence from witnesses, including Day.
Day stuck to his original position during questioning, although he told the Lords committee the ruling was "the most difficult decision I have had to make in my whole career".
Despite Day’s evidence, the committee is understood to believe that mechanical failure may have contributed to the crash. Such a finding would undermine Day’s verdict that pilot error caused the crash ‘beyond any doubt’.
Last night, the pilots’ families declined to comment about Day in advance of the committee report.
But Lord Chalfont, chair of the all-party Mull of Kintyre group, which led the campaign for a Lords inquiry, said: "I have heard it suggested that Sir John is the most likely candidate for the top job in the RAF.
"Obviously if this inquiry went against him it might affect his career.
"I don’t believe it should do so - as long as the MoD now accepts that his decision was a mistake."
Just received this email from H of L:
The report of the Committee will be published on Tuesday 5 February at 11am. It will be available from bookshops (the publisher is TSO), and on the web (www.parliament.uk). It will include a note that your own correspondence with the Committee will be available for public inspection in the House of Lords Record Office
Looks like there is an end to this affair in sight - here's hoping for the right result
The report of the Committee will be published on Tuesday 5 February at 11am. It will be available from bookshops (the publisher is TSO), and on the web (www.parliament.uk). It will include a note that your own correspondence with the Committee will be available for public inspection in the House of Lords Record Office
Looks like there is an end to this affair in sight - here's hoping for the right result
Just so everyone knows what will happen on Tuesday:
At 11am the report will be placed in the Printed Paper Office of the HofL. It is given to the media at the same time.
For anyone interested you can also get it from the Parliamentary Bookshop which is just opposite Big Ben in between Bridge Street and Parliament St.
The Mull Of Kintyre Group chaired by Lord Chalfont will meet at the same time to discuss the findings.
There is a press conference at Portcullis House at 3.30pm.
There seems to be no ideas from any side about which way it will go.
Fingers crossed for justice.
At 11am the report will be placed in the Printed Paper Office of the HofL. It is given to the media at the same time.
For anyone interested you can also get it from the Parliamentary Bookshop which is just opposite Big Ben in between Bridge Street and Parliament St.
The Mull Of Kintyre Group chaired by Lord Chalfont will meet at the same time to discuss the findings.
There is a press conference at Portcullis House at 3.30pm.
There seems to be no ideas from any side about which way it will go.
Fingers crossed for justice.
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John, your 1506 post on the 28th indicates the report will be available online at the same time as it is released.
Just in case it isn't can you please post a quick outcome for the benefit of those in other parts of the world ?
Just in case it isn't can you please post a quick outcome for the benefit of those in other parts of the world ?
