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Old 25th May 2009, 13:50
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I know a V-force copilot who was told he would lose his PV if he married a Yugoslav.
Lower down the pecking order, I know of a Cpl Telegraphist who, while in 2 TAF Germany, married a Polish refugee and virtually ended his RAF career. In the Signals Office Cpl's and above handled classified signals.
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I was once sent on an overseas posting where it was considered that I could be at risk of attempted compromise by a hostile intelligence service. As part of the pre-posting preparation, I had to read an extensive file about the known compromise attempts by that service. I remember it being a really entertaining afternoon's read. Typically they used to use a combination of alcohol, disinhibiting drugs and hidden cameras to film a target in varying degrees of undress and compromise, with the objective of later confronting the target and embarassing him/her into cooperation. One I remember well was the tale of a respected and senior Japanese engineer who, though happily married and with a family, was known to enjoy a varied and colourful nightlife, so was considered to be a harder target than most. So he was entrapped into a very colourful sado-masochastic bondage session with prostitutes of several different sexes. On his next trip to the country, he was confronted with a colourful and explicit album of all his activities, in the hope that he could be blackmailed into providing classified information. Unfortunately, the attempt failed, as the target broke into a broad smile, flipped through the pages eagerly, demanded to know how long the orgy had gone on for, then asked for copies of all the photos to give to his friends as they had not believed his story...
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Old 25th May 2009, 17:55
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..sado-masochastic bondage session with prostitutes of several different sexes.
Holy smoke batman, several different sexes? - only 2 that i am aware of. Or was that part of the orgy? wasn't Thailand was it?
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Old 25th May 2009, 17:59
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if said "senior officers" had been guilty of certain things such as aldultery, use of professional "ladies" etc etc etc, are they not as likely to be at risk of threats of blackmail from the other people involved rather than whoever has got hold of the disks!!!!!!???

Does make you wonder about Govt security tho!

and were they knicked or lost? thats more worrying
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Old 25th May 2009, 19:48
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BBC2 9.00pm

Who's Watching You?

'New series. As the UK's DNA database grows and the number of CCTV cameras increases, Richard Bilton investigates the hidden world of surveillance. He visits Middlesbrough to learn about the benefits a network of over 200 cameras has brought to the community, and meets a former RAF serviceman with security clearance whose personal data was lost three times by the MoD.'

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Old 25th May 2009, 21:23
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if said "senior officers" had been guilty of certain things such as aldultery, use of professional "ladies" etc etc etc, are they not as likely to be at risk of threats of blackmail from the other people involved rather than whoever has got hold of the disks!!!!!!???
Standard night out if they were former Ascoteers...
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Old 25th May 2009, 21:51
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Am I missing the point?

If the info had been disclosed to the relevant authorities as part of the clearance process, where is the blackmail threat from / to?

I understood that sharing details reduced the opening for blackmail.


Maybe I am just being simple ....
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Old 25th May 2009, 22:54
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If you cannot blackmail the person because the MOD already know, then blackmail them because their partner/spouse/friend doesn't know.
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Old 26th May 2009, 06:22
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If you cannot blackmail the person because the MOD already know, then blackmail them because their partner/spouse/friend doesn't know.
This was the essential, and stupid, difference between us and the US. They required open disclosure which removed the risk of 'private' blackmail. If you didn't want family to know then you didn't make the disclosure to them and you didn't get the job.

In UK it was sufficient that you talked to the confessors. Mad. Indeed if you also talked to your flt cdr then you were likely to get an immediate admin discharge. We pilliored the spook plod that told us that one.
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Old 26th May 2009, 09:47
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What problem?

Debt, prostitutes, criminal records, drug use? Sounds like a standard navy run ashore.................

Oh, and for the record Mr DVA York - I am joking. Just before my computer sponaneously combusts.
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