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Looks more like data theft than data loss. More like someone was after the content of the disks than the disks themselves.
I admit to having a box of legacy floppies that I use from time to time on 'sneaker' net but honestly don't know what is on all of them. Really I should apply the 6 month and 12 month rules and simply destroy most of them.
I would guess there are dozens on gash floppies and CD lying around. If anything the CDs are worse as they are now being used as floppies once were but are generally once only and therefore permanently readable.
I admit to having a box of legacy floppies that I use from time to time on 'sneaker' net but honestly don't know what is on all of them. Really I should apply the 6 month and 12 month rules and simply destroy most of them.
I would guess there are dozens on gash floppies and CD lying around. If anything the CDs are worse as they are now being used as floppies once were but are generally once only and therefore permanently readable.
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It's enough to make you cry.
Makes a mockery of some of the day to day basic security measures when information like this is disappearing from places where people should know better.
..and don't even get me started on idiots losing/getting laptops stolen.
If it was theft and the information was handled correctly, you'd expect them to know who took it, or who allowed it to be taken. I hope they got a P45.
Makes a mockery of some of the day to day basic security measures when information like this is disappearing from places where people should know better.
..and don't even get me started on idiots losing/getting laptops stolen.
If it was theft and the information was handled correctly, you'd expect them to know who took it, or who allowed it to be taken. I hope they got a P45.
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"details of criminal convictions, investigations, precise details of debt, medical conditions, drug abuse, use of prostitutes, extra-marital affairs including the names of third parties".
And these people are RAF Officers? Why haven't they resigned their commissions?
And these people are RAF Officers? Why haven't they resigned their commissions?
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There's a big drive for everyone to do new mandatory data courses. If that tick in the box is received and then you f**k up, you should be out. IMO, for losing information at DV level you should be put in prison, irrespective of your grade/rank.
I don't think that opinion is too Daily Mail. Too many idiots are ignorant of I.T and it's capablities or the way data can be used.
Sir Percy, I believe you have identified the criteria for a transition from from Eton to the House of Commons.
I don't think that opinion is too Daily Mail. Too many idiots are ignorant of I.T and it's capablities or the way data can be used.
Sir Percy, I believe you have identified the criteria for a transition from from Eton to the House of Commons.
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Defence Vetting Agency - Frequently Asked Questions - Safeguards
Very interesting!
How confidential is the vetting process?
All personal information gathered during the vetting process is handled in the strictest confidence by the DVA. In a very small number of cases, where serious risks have been identified, we may discuss the case with the Ministry of Defence security and personnel authorities.
All personal information gathered during the vetting process is handled in the strictest confidence by the DVA. In a very small number of cases, where serious risks have been identified, we may discuss the case with the Ministry of Defence security and personnel authorities.
LFFC
Always been the case that if the interviewing officers consider the stuff unearthed (or volunteered) during a DV interview was of such a serious nature as to doubt your character they could refer it back to the MOD. The first course of action is usually not to be given DV clearance - this tends to set alarm bells ringing anyway! I know a couple of 'characters' (neither of them me!) who failed their DV for very different reasons which led to them to flying a different aircraft type! I also have seen individuals in flying training keen not to be role disposed to a certain aircraft type because of the need to be DV'd!
As for this number (500?) whose confidential information from their DVs has been lost may be making for some uncomfortable home lives. But to adopt the 'holier than thou' approach so often seen on this board - if you play with fire expect to get your fingers burnt!
Always been the case that if the interviewing officers consider the stuff unearthed (or volunteered) during a DV interview was of such a serious nature as to doubt your character they could refer it back to the MOD. The first course of action is usually not to be given DV clearance - this tends to set alarm bells ringing anyway! I know a couple of 'characters' (neither of them me!) who failed their DV for very different reasons which led to them to flying a different aircraft type! I also have seen individuals in flying training keen not to be role disposed to a certain aircraft type because of the need to be DV'd!
As for this number (500?) whose confidential information from their DVs has been lost may be making for some uncomfortable home lives. But to adopt the 'holier than thou' approach so often seen on this board - if you play with fire expect to get your fingers burnt!
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Does make you wonder though whether your home life is worth a DV....
THis isnt the first time. I do recall Dave Cameron's former drugs history media leak came from his DV interview as well?
Pretty disgraceful that stuff supposed to be held in such high confidence is left to leak. If I was a senior officer and this cost me my marriage, I would be looking for some serious compensation.
THis isnt the first time. I do recall Dave Cameron's former drugs history media leak came from his DV interview as well?
Pretty disgraceful that stuff supposed to be held in such high confidence is left to leak. If I was a senior officer and this cost me my marriage, I would be looking for some serious compensation.
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"details of criminal convictions, investigations, precise details of debt, medical conditions, drug abuse, use of prostitutes, extra-marital affairs including the names of third parties".
And these people are RAF Officers? Why haven't they resigned their commissions?
"details of criminal convictions, investigations, precise details of debt, medical conditions, drug abuse, use of prostitutes, extra-marital affairs including the names of third parties".
And these people are RAF Officers? Why haven't they resigned their commissions?
Which by the way the current Government see things, they probably believe it is a mandatory requirement to achieve higher rank, suprised they did not add expense fraud to the list!.
Personally, I would expect senior officers to set a much better example than using prostitutes, drugs and perhaps even rent boys and then keeping that secret from their current partners.
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Too many idiots are ignorant of I.T and it's capablities or the way data can be used.
When confidential data was on 'Data Centre' computers, the data was only handled by 'computer professionals' who realised the value off and consequences of mishandling data.
Also in those long gone 'Data Centre' days, being a 'computer operator' required training and knowledge.
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There is no evidence to suggest that the information held on the hard drive believed to have been stolen from the secure SPVA site at MoD Innsworth has been targeted by criminal or hostile elements.
Therefore it was done by a 'criminal element'!
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On the confidentiallity bitand postings being changed, I know a V-force copilot who was told he would lose his PV if he married a Yugoslav. He did and he was posted to Canberras, 360 IIRC.
Then there was the Air Marshal who, had his posting been changed or stopped would have signalled that he had failed his PV. Instead of that 'embarassment' he was outed by the Sun or NOWS in the toilets at Shepherd's Bush. At the same time we were told that a wg cdr had made a confession to the confessors and therefore been given a clean bill of health.
So much for confidentiality. There weren't that many wg cdrs in the frame. Then a V-force nav rad was posted we knew why, too many sherbets, too often.
Then there was the Air Marshal who, had his posting been changed or stopped would have signalled that he had failed his PV. Instead of that 'embarassment' he was outed by the Sun or NOWS in the toilets at Shepherd's Bush. At the same time we were told that a wg cdr had made a confession to the confessors and therefore been given a clean bill of health.
So much for confidentiality. There weren't that many wg cdrs in the frame. Then a V-force nav rad was posted we knew why, too many sherbets, too often.