Re-introduction of Commissioning opportunities for NCA
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The second OASC Board has not taken place yet so no results will be out for a while. Possibly mid December.
Seems like a long time for the guys who went mid-summer to have to wait for a decision.
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I attended OASC well over a month ago for the CWOS board, along with 7 other MACr. The second part of the regular board finished today, and manning will decide who gets the job/s over the next couple of weeks.
On the OASC morning and just prior to interview, Gp Capt OASC chatted to us and said that "the job of OASC today is to grade the candidates like a promotion board, and that would be there only part in the process". They would then pass the graded results over to manning. Remarkably, he then said that even if you were to come last on this selection board, you may still be the only guy to be offered a commissioned job ??
The talk of numbers for CWOS from this years' board is 1 X ALM (or possibly Eng - unlikely) and 1X AEOp. This is only rumour though. Awaiting results, but not holding my breath as there are some bad rumours out there.
On the OASC morning and just prior to interview, Gp Capt OASC chatted to us and said that "the job of OASC today is to grade the candidates like a promotion board, and that would be there only part in the process". They would then pass the graded results over to manning. Remarkably, he then said that even if you were to come last on this selection board, you may still be the only guy to be offered a commissioned job ??
The talk of numbers for CWOS from this years' board is 1 X ALM (or possibly Eng - unlikely) and 1X AEOp. This is only rumour though. Awaiting results, but not holding my breath as there are some bad rumours out there.
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you get an invitation to apply, OASC only grade you, its fairly safe to say that even if you do well, its a bums on available seats game. And, even if you are graded and come last, you may still make the cut.
Seems like a well thought out and transparent system. Perhaps next year, we could introduce an X Factor format, with Sqn Cdr's phoning in and voting.
(Good luck to all those awaiting results - I think commissioning is a positive step, but find the process a little puzzling)
you get an invitation to apply, OASC only grade you, its fairly safe to say that even if you do well, its a bums on available seats game. And, even if you are graded and come last, you may still make the cut.
Seems like a well thought out and transparent system. Perhaps next year, we could introduce an X Factor format, with Sqn Cdr's phoning in and voting.
(Good luck to all those awaiting results - I think commissioning is a positive step, but find the process a little puzzling)
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First lot will be announced 1st week in Dec!!
It is my understanding that the first "new tranche" of NCA in branch commissioning volunteers will find out if they are succesful during the first week in Dec?
Rumours have it that they will not get near an aircraft for at least a tour and maybe not even then depending on the aircraft type or training throughput of ab-initios.
Sounds a bit up in the air to me!! I wait to hear Cranwells (obviously correct) decision with baited breath!
Rumours have it that they will not get near an aircraft for at least a tour and maybe not even then depending on the aircraft type or training throughput of ab-initios.
Sounds a bit up in the air to me!! I wait to hear Cranwells (obviously correct) decision with baited breath!
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Does anyone know yet???
Well?
Has anyone heard anything?
I heard a chap from Waddo got it and he didn't even apply for NCA, he was trying for 2 winged master race!
Anyone else?
Has anyone heard anything?
I heard a chap from Waddo got it and he didn't even apply for NCA, he was trying for 2 winged master race!
Anyone else?
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CWOS chap selected is a thoroughly decent rotary ALM well done big man ! Also there has been 2 back door offers to former WSOps who applied for commissioning as ATC, etc and whilst at Cranditz where offered to return as Commissioned WSOp's !
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Backdoor aircrew commissions?
Well R21, what would you do if you were halfway through IOT to be a stacker, and Manning suddenly offered you flying pay on top?
Bit of a no brainer for the 2 in question I would think.
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Bit of a no brainer for the 2 in question I would think.
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do you not think they should have competed against their peers to ensure we get the 'best of the best' ? Or should we just offer it to any old Joe?
do you not think they should have competed against their peers to ensure we get the 'best of the best' ? Or should we just offer it to any old Joe?
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R21: Old record and not even a new tune.
They did compete against their peers, they put their head above the parapet, applied for and got a commission, (or at least a place at IOT, which for any NCA with the right attitude is a forgone sucessfull conclusion).
Yes they struck lucky; not the first and I doubt the last, who cares. Like all former airmen/SNCO they will either be awesome in their new career or oxygen thieves because experience suggests that few are simply average shags. Lets just hope that they are up to the job and are able to balance career and new responsibilities (to their subordinates) without being a tit.
They did compete against their peers, they put their head above the parapet, applied for and got a commission, (or at least a place at IOT, which for any NCA with the right attitude is a forgone sucessfull conclusion).
Yes they struck lucky; not the first and I doubt the last, who cares. Like all former airmen/SNCO they will either be awesome in their new career or oxygen thieves because experience suggests that few are simply average shags. Lets just hope that they are up to the job and are able to balance career and new responsibilities (to their subordinates) without being a tit.
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I agree, I truely hope they are the business and look after the lad's and lasses as best as they can. My only question is if they had gone into the current competition mix would they have been sucessfull ? They might have been but I guess we will never know !
Wishing them all the best !
I agree, I truely hope they are the business and look after the lad's and lasses as best as they can. My only question is if they had gone into the current competition mix would they have been sucessfull ? They might have been but I guess we will never know !
Wishing them all the best !
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R21, I did have a similarly dubious attitude to the 2 in question when I heard about it.
To be truthful we didn't welcome them with open arms when they arrived on our unit.
Since then both have been given a lot of responsibility and are putting in the sort of effort we all expect, without alienating any of the NCA in their areas.
Whilst I agree commissions should be offered to the best candidates, no-one can blame these guys for accepting the generous offer they received.
I hope more of us get the chance of commissioned service in fact, then we can stop moaning about our leadership and try and do a better job than the poor ones do at present.
Seasons Greetings
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To be truthful we didn't welcome them with open arms when they arrived on our unit.
Since then both have been given a lot of responsibility and are putting in the sort of effort we all expect, without alienating any of the NCA in their areas.
Whilst I agree commissions should be offered to the best candidates, no-one can blame these guys for accepting the generous offer they received.
I hope more of us get the chance of commissioned service in fact, then we can stop moaning about our leadership and try and do a better job than the poor ones do at present.
Seasons Greetings
CS