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St Athan Grob Aircraft Crash In Wales

Old 11th Feb 2009, 11:04
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St Athan Grob Aircraft Crash In Wales

Thread started on Private Flying. Just wondering if they are from UWAS? That area was often used out of St Athan, or are they at Rhoose at the moment, due to resurfacing? Thoughts with those involved.

BBC NEWS | Wales | Two light aircraft crash in Wales
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 11:33
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Being reported as Military on BBC website

BBC NEWS | Wales | Light aircraft in mid-air crash

"Gareth Maund, landlord of the Prince of Wales pub added: "Two light aircraft military have collided over the Kenfig area."


"A local councillor Jeff Tildesley said the wreckage is in the sand dunes at Mawdlam.
He said: "I am able to see some evidence of the aeroplane wreckage surrounded by police vehicles, we have heard the pilot jumped out. "We are hearing there is one fatality but that is unconfirmed, I am only able to see the wreckage of one plane."
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BBC ceefax report that MOD confirm there are casualties - no other details.

Let us hope that " casualties" does not translate into "fatalities".
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 11:40
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Here's hoping, thoughts with UWAS and the AEF down there.
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 12:20
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Regretfully, this is in the BBC report:
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"We saw the smoke coming from the dunes."
He and a friend ran over, where other people had already reached the scene.
He said they found a body.
"Somebody said there was a second plane and we had seen the debris so we ran, hoping we could do something," he said.
He said there was another body there.
They were later told the dead people had been accompanied by others, he said. unquote.
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Another report from a newspaper for Wales:

WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Four feared dead in South Wales plane crash
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 12:28
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BBC eyewitnesses reporting fatalities and showing what looks to be a photo of the wreckage of a tutor. Bugger.
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Its definitely one Tutor and definitely fatal. Whether its two Tutors I don't know.

Would it be AEF or UAS operations today?

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Old 11th Feb 2009, 14:00
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The credible witness interviewed by the BBC and shown on the embedded video on the BBCi news page suggests that the two aircraft were on very different headings. She mentions seeing the first passing left to right, and then seeing the second, and expecting to see them pass each other with enough vertical clearance (my words), but they collided.
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 14:08
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How about us all forget the in house bickering and just remember that possibly four poor souls that have lost their lives in this tragic accident.

My Sincere and Heartfelt Condolencies to those and to all of their families and loved ones.
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There is a private strip just south of Margam Park, a km or less north of the site. Frequently there are AEF/VGS flights passing Nash point east/west through the Kenfig area and the Margam strip is orientated north/south.

2nd aircraft MAY not be AEF.
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Not my favourite source....

but a good photo (if it's your kind of thing)

'RAF trainees' killed in crash | The Sun |News
Condolences
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 14:21
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Point of Order

No-one has yet confirmed whether the aircraft was on an AEF or UAS sortie. Let's make sure we're careful what 'lingo' we use, someone (press) could use it as a quote.
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Supposed identities of both aircraft have already appeared on several Yahoo groups and websites.

A sad day.
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BBC now confirming 4 fatalities. Very very sad.

BBC News: Four die in mid-air plane crash
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BBC R5 have just interviewed Gp Capt Andy Naismith. He (obviously) couldn't give many details but confirmed they were Grobs from St Athan.

Today has just become very bad. Condolances to all.
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Old 11th Feb 2009, 16:13
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Bugger,

Condolences to all!

I was looking forward to my AEF flying tomorrow until now

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Sad news indeed RIP Fellas
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Desperately sad news...RIP you guys
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Deepest condolences to the families. What a shame. Rest in peace.
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