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St Athan Grob Aircraft Crash In Wales

Old 12th Feb 2009, 10:57
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I can remember many a happy day from my childhood spent at RAF Finningley and RAF Leeming waiting for my AEF slot, and as a current VGS pilot, there is nothing more rewarding that seeing the look on a cadet's face after their first experience flight.

I can only express my shock at this sad loss.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:19
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I feel even more sad now that the names have been posted I have known one of the pilots for over 30 years.

When I first pulled on the hairy blue uniform of an ATC cadet well over 40 years ago I knew exactly what I wanted to pursue as a career. After nearly 28 years in RAF uniform I left to pursue a second career in the civil sector. Aviation is in my blood and I could not contemplate working in another industry.

My Dad was an AEF pilot and CO of my ATC Sqn. He was killed in a Chipmunk crash many years ago, but fortunately his passenger survived.

Nevertheless, I still remember my elder boy putting on his ATC uniform for the first time and his beaming face when he came home after his first trip in a Tutor. So the aviation theme continues in the family.

My heartfelt condolences go out to the bereaved families and the friends and colleagues of the deceased. My thoughts are with you at this awful time.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:22
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As A CI with No 1 Welsh Wing I found out very quickly after the event yesterday that we had lost 2 of our cadets and 2 of of our AEF instructors. To say it has shaken me to the core is an understatement. ( I should add not my squadron but one of our Wings squadrons however our CO went to help deal with the aftermath) I have been lucky to escort the cadets flying on occasions both to AEF and VGS and as you say the wide beams on the cadets faces after their flight is a joy to behold especially as you escort them from the aircraft and ask them how the flight was, I don't think we ever get less than an awesome.

Temporarily here at No 1 Welsh Wing flying is suspended I hope it will be very temporary but we have a lot of work to do now reassuring both the cadets and parents about flying. I have a class this weekend for our intake on Airmanship usually one of the favoured subjects, I guess there will be some hard questions to answer

My thoughts are with everyone involved in this utter tragedy
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:34
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Damn. Would anyone know whether it was Hylton Price, ex F4, GR1 and Saudi Project Office?
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:38
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Such an awful event. May you all rest in peace, and as a very small consolation to the family of cadets and instructors they left us whilst doing something they loved.

AEF flying without doubt shaped my life. I vivdly remember my first flight to this day. Later went on to join a UAS and the best time of my life so far was flying grobs over the country side, and that has led me to pursue a commercial license.

Lets please not have any knee jerk reactions and stop youngsters enjoying this incredible opportunity that we are able to offer them, and hopefully the AEF flights will be able to come out of this stronger than ever before.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:39
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Soo young

BBC NEWS | Wales | Grief as cousins die in air crash
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:46
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TT - there'll only ever be one Hylton Price.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:47
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This is just so sad. I'm a CI on my sons ATC squadron and am responsible for arranging the AEF/AEG flying for the unit. I have accompanied the cadets on many occassions and have been lucky enough to fly in both the Tutor and Vigilant.

Whilst that opportunity is rewarding, the real reward comes form seeing the faces of the cadets on their return from a flight, especially those nervous first timers, it is a real pleasure to see.

Condolences to all involved and affected by this tragic accident.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:52
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RIP Marshy. Thanks for the good times!

Very sad to hear about the Cadets. Even worse that they're related. Not fair.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:54
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Words just aren't enough really..

I really can't add to the words that everyone's already said. Just to say that having been a cadet and flown first at Abingdon in a Chippie and as an adult member of the Corps (and flown in the Tutor), my heart goes out to the families of the youngsters and their pilots.

RIP all
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:54
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TT, affirm.

Only met Andy briefly, but by all accounts a top fellow.

Had the honour of flying with Hylton on a number of occasions and spent a lot of crewroom time waiting for the severn fog to clear with him, then taking kids flying. A true gentleman aviator.

I view my spare time spent flying the ATC youngsters around south wales as some of the finest time in my career. All I can say is, if the two girls who were lost yesterday were anything like the kids I flew with, they would have been charming, enthusiastic and great fun to fly with. Long may it continue.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:07
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Very sad news

As a totally retired VRT Officer who has flown thousands of Air cadet sorties and seen the smiles and made some more advanced sudents have their dream come true, I sincerely hope that we carry on as before, flying many more ATC and CCF Cadets.

As my old boss used to say, "ALL flying training is dangerous, but the only way to make it safe is to weld the Hangar doors shut" !!

However, for those who continue to be involved, never forget that our pax and studes are the most valuable jewels belonging to other parents, and that our professionalism MUST always be paramount. That was always my way and it worked well for me and all my young Students and passengers.

Carry on HQAC, and the RAF, may the task continue with the benefit of any Board findings used to improve safety.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:07
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Oh dear. I feared so. If anyone has word of funeral details in the coming days, would you be so kind as to PM me?
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:07
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Very, very sad news. Heartfelt condolences to all families and friends.

Also agree with Jackonicko. As one whose life was greatly enriched by UAS flying I hope that, while all possible lessons are learned, this tragedy will not put the future of AEF or UAS in question.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:08
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Second that, pm me if you know funeral details please.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:27
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Sad news for the families affected - heartfelt condolences to them.
Knew Hylton - he was a gentleman.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:33
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I'd like to join the growing ranks of those ex Air Cadets who benefitted from the generosity and experience of the AFEs, and who are posting condolences. I have hugely happy memories from the early 80s of aerobatics over Margate and Cambridgeshire. Please keep up your fantastic work guys, especially in the light of this tragedy.

Hearfelt condolences to families, friends and colleagues of those killed.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 13:14
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My interest in aviation started with the ATC in Plymouth, flying at AEF Exeter airport as well as Filton. Also during my time gliding at Chivenor and Predannack. The Staff ensuring that the cadets got as much from the experience as possible.

After joining the RAF i put some time back in to the ATC by assiting 2 squardons and also becoming Dep ACLO at one station.
The enthusiasm from cadets in recent years was no different to that of the days when i and countless others were given the opportunity to fly.
Lets hope this continues a long tradition of cadets being flown and that this incident does not put off parents allowing their offspring to sample the delights of aviation.

Heartfelt condolences to all those concerned..
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 13:16
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Completely numb at the news. Fully echo the sentiments already expressed.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 14:32
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A very sad day for all. I joined the RAF with Hylton, we graduated from Henlow on No 239 course, 3 December 1970. Our paths crossed many times during our service life, both in staff tours, on GR1s and lastly in Saudi Arabia on the Al Yamamah project. He was one of the old school aircrew officers, a real officer and a true gentleman. My thoughts and condolences go to his family and friends and the family and friends of Andrew, Nikkita and Katie-Jo. RIP.
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