St Athan Grob Aircraft Crash In Wales
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Very sad news.
I had spoken to Flt Lt Hylton on a number of occasions and he was a bloody nice bloke. Very polite and cheery. Always willing to give others a flight. This is very sad news for UWAS and Saints.
As an ex-CWO myself, it hit particulary hard to home.
I loved AEF flying in Chipmunks and Bulldogs and I hope it doesn't put any cadets off.
R.I.P "Venture Adventure"
" Per Ardua"
I had spoken to Flt Lt Hylton on a number of occasions and he was a bloody nice bloke. Very polite and cheery. Always willing to give others a flight. This is very sad news for UWAS and Saints.
As an ex-CWO myself, it hit particulary hard to home.
I loved AEF flying in Chipmunks and Bulldogs and I hope it doesn't put any cadets off.
R.I.P "Venture Adventure"
" Per Ardua"
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Hylton Price was in charge of the MOD Team when I worked out in Dhahran in the late 90s - you couldn't hope to meet a nicer guy, a real gentleman.
My heartfelt condolences go out to his family, those of Andrew Marsh and to the families of Nikkita and Katie-Jo at this devastating time.
Rest in Peace
My heartfelt condolences go out to his family, those of Andrew Marsh and to the families of Nikkita and Katie-Jo at this devastating time.
Rest in Peace
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Cmdt Air Cadets has issued a statement this morning - relayed to me as a CCF(RAF) Section Cmdr by HQAC-CCF. I'm sure it will also make its way down the ATC chain of command.
It doesn't really say much, as you would imagine, apart from saying that we should all wait for the BOI (and AAIB investigation - remember these were civvie-registered).
Latest from our local AEF is that it is business as usual for now, which is good news as I have cadets flying later this month.
A couple of years ago on Summer Camp at Henlow we visited the accident investigation section - sad to think that these chaps will have been out to the scene, but reassuring as they were unbelievably competent and professional.
Condolences to all involved: it's a bit too close to home for comfort.
Tim
It doesn't really say much, as you would imagine, apart from saying that we should all wait for the BOI (and AAIB investigation - remember these were civvie-registered).
Latest from our local AEF is that it is business as usual for now, which is good news as I have cadets flying later this month.
A couple of years ago on Summer Camp at Henlow we visited the accident investigation section - sad to think that these chaps will have been out to the scene, but reassuring as they were unbelievably competent and professional.
Condolences to all involved: it's a bit too close to home for comfort.
Tim
'Twas only a couple of weeks ago that I was sipping tea with Andy in the Crewroom. He was sooo looking forward to Valley; a keen, enthusiastic and friendly young officer cut off before reaching his prime.
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Sadly this is what the press thrive on !!
A few eyewitnesses who problably will get no closer to an a/c than 5,000ft but couldnt tell the difference from a Tristar or 747 !!
However, they are, at the moment the only witnesses to such a tragic event.
The only thing that should be happening is to allow the AAIB/BOI team to do their stuff and publish a prelim report to dispel the "gutter press" rumours and then a full report to ensure that this is an isolated incident for whatever reasons..!!
LL
A few eyewitnesses who problably will get no closer to an a/c than 5,000ft but couldnt tell the difference from a Tristar or 747 !!
However, they are, at the moment the only witnesses to such a tragic event.
The only thing that should be happening is to allow the AAIB/BOI team to do their stuff and publish a prelim report to dispel the "gutter press" rumours and then a full report to ensure that this is an isolated incident for whatever reasons..!!
LL
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I saw a witness whose interview was recorded on the BBCi news page - she made no mention of aeros etc., and she saw the collision in full.
The idea that this accident resulted from a formation manoeuvre that went wrong is laughable, as anyone who has done any standard formation flying in aircraft of this size/type will know.
The idea that this accident resulted from a formation manoeuvre that went wrong is laughable, as anyone who has done any standard formation flying in aircraft of this size/type will know.
TCAS
Lets hope the RAF starts to believe in TCAS and funds an installation - lots of basic units available off-the-shelf; probably be able to do it under UOR or similar.
RIP the departed; I too have happy memories of Chippy flights at Hurn.
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RIP the departed; I too have happy memories of Chippy flights at Hurn.
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I was saddened by the tragic news the other day, particularly at the loss of those young lives, but to hear that it was Hylton is just devastating
I knew Hylton from our time on 92 Sqn and flew with him many times. He was An Officer and a Gentleman in every way. A good man and a fine aviator.
I saw how he handled the approach end barrier incident at Wildnrath in 1980 showing flying skills and airmanship of the highest order; for him to lose his life in this way is just heart breaking
Rest in Peace Old Chap and you will be sorely missed. The world is a sadder place this evening.
I knew Hylton from our time on 92 Sqn and flew with him many times. He was An Officer and a Gentleman in every way. A good man and a fine aviator.
I saw how he handled the approach end barrier incident at Wildnrath in 1980 showing flying skills and airmanship of the highest order; for him to lose his life in this way is just heart breaking
Rest in Peace Old Chap and you will be sorely missed. The world is a sadder place this evening.
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RIP to the pilots who died doing what they loved, and to the youngsters who have been taken from us far to early. Guttted to hear it was cadets, brings back painful personal memories of the wessex at Valley.
RIP all, our thoughts should be now with the families.
RIP all, our thoughts should be now with the families.
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I just read through all this thread and of course I've had a bloody good cry at the sadness of it all. What shines through in every post (except those mentioning the execrable gutter press) is how these people died doing something they loved and which so many of us would give anything to do.
We should celebrate that.
We should celebrate that.
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Only just found out and am shocked and numb. RIP Hylton and also Andrew and the 2 girls. Condolences to all the Red Dragons/1AEF and the families involved.
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I post as someone who not only knew Hylton well but also flew with him on many occasions - sometimes in scenarios where mutual trust and respect for each other's ability was essential. His early departure saddens me and I feel for the losses of all in this tragic accident but look forward to our reunion in whatever passes for happy hour in the next life. In the meantime, I would be most grateful for details of his funeral - please post them here when you know.