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Old 27th Mar 2009, 18:54
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Dont they know house prices are down around 25% and rents down 15% on last year
Not exactly true.... I am a lanlord and I have increased the rent on the properties I own...... BUt you asre correct in stating that it is in fact a pay cut rather than a pay rise.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:21
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:47
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I think Daniel Hannan MEP has Broon bang to rights........

YouTube - Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government

I'm expecting a modest 2%, but if they put their hands up and admit they've got it all wrong and we're in a dire situation, I'll not argue if we get nowt, providing all charges are also frozen at 08/09 levels. Not announcing anything yet, and it looking like 30th March at the earliest, is utter comtempt for all of us in the Armed Forces!!
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:59
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Isn't this getting a bit like Russia? Are we actually going to get paid next month?
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 20:09
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Hats off to our masters at the speed with which they anounce 2000 more troops to the sand pit.If only everything in life was as quick!
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 20:10
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We Are Fuc*ed

There is something else we have all missed.

Yes the AFPRB announcment is later than ever.

But when was the last budget announced in April instead of Mid March?

They haven't got a clue..... Get the Un-Elected, Scotish Moron Out before this country goes the same way as Woolworth's!

Just an observation.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 21:50
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JPA is showing a pre loaded basic pay rate of 2.8% more for april than is currently on there for march. That is your basic rate of pay not including x factor, which is 14% of whatever you get paid as you basic rate. It is not anticipated that x factor is rising this year. They could easily reprogram this rate of pay to another (lower) one but it is very likely that that is what we are getting and it is just the politicians dragging the feet announcing it for some reason.

A Sgt Adminer posted the above on E goat earlier.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 06:48
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Re the post above...

Fascinating, has a JPA leakage/Pprune combination just spotted something the government are clearly desperate to stage manage?

This one's worth watching....
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 07:33
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Posting Marxist slogans on a well-known military-used website?

That should attract the attention of the black Omega brigade.....
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 08:53
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No, they didn't get any pay info so are looking the other way.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 11:37
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The 2.8% pay rise is fine but like previous prooners have stated if Food & Accomm goes up by 3.9% then thats a pay cut. Despite that, I think that the 2.8% pay rise is welcome and there are many people in this country who would love a 2.8% pay rise...we should be thankful of small mercies
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 11:56
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The 2.8% pay rise is fine but like previous prooners have stated if Food & Accomm goes up by 3.9% then thats a pay cut.

Spheroid - This only holds true if all your pay is spent on food and accom.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 12:11
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The 2.8% pay rise is fine but like previous prooners have stated if Food & Accomm goes up by 3.9% then thats a pay cut.
Er no....thats 2.8% on your salary and 3.9% of Food and Accom - whatever the current charge for that is.

Eg Sgt on £33,274 plus 2.8% means an extra £931

Can't find food and accom charges ATM but say £300 per month then an increase of 3.9% means an extra £140 per year.

So overal increase of £791 a year - not what I would call a pay cut based on simple percentages.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 12:37
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It is a pay cut; CPI is at 3.2% currently, has been above 3% for the past 12 months and therefore a 3.2% pay rise with rises in accomodation and food above inflaton is thus a pay cut...

the £931 is to counteract the devaluation in the pound over the pst 12 months. You cant consider that with above inflation accom charges and not call it a paycut I am afraid.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 12:56
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It is a pay cut; CPI is at 3.2% currently
And the CPI is itself just a statistic - junior NCOs with a young family may well see about double the rate of CPI in their own shopping basket - food, gas/electricity and many other essential/basic/weekly items have gone up by far more than CPI. CPI is being held down by the falls in price of consumer durables (furniture, electronics, white goods etc.) which may not be such a large part of their annual expenditure as the CPI calculates.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 13:17
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Tell me about it as a JNCO with wife 2.4 kids etc etc I guestimate im about 15% worse off than this time last year with shopping bills, insurance costs and loss of savings interest. Ill take whatever i can get payrise wise, every little helps. At this rate ill be shopping at Aldi soon.

Dont even get me started on my quarter charges.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 13:27
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How much is it to rent a Quarter these days...?
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 13:31
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Right - to clear some things up.

AFPRB recommendation is based on the Sept RPI figure.

This was 5.1%. Hence state pension and AF pension increases of 5%.

CPI is a worthless figure. Nu Labia invented it to give a false impression of inflation in the housing boom.

So a payrise of 2.8% is once again a sub-RPI payrise, the same as the last 10years. Armed Forces standard of living has reduced drastically in this time.

This is why you will see brickies, labourers and even dole-ies with better standards of living than some in the military (the self-employed, 'self-assessment' tax dodging sector has thrived, literally at our expense).

Food prices soaring, council tax up by 3.2%, fuel on the way back up and Broon gives us a pittance. The only consolation (to me) is that interest rates will have to go up to stave off real-world inflation. The current 0.5% rate helps only the bankers. Keeping them at this rate is now impossible.

F*ck New Labia and the 'non-dom' section of society who have creamed off the riches of the longest period of sustained growth into their own pockets with no benefit to the UK. In the same period Norway banked £200Bn into thier state trust fund. Ours has gone in bonusses and local government diversity advisors.

Bugger.

Now, did somebody mention something about a coup.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 13:42
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Sorry maybe I didn't make what I was saying clear enough but based on the 2.8% rise in pay and 3.9% increase in Food and Accom - The pay WILL go up and so it is a rise based on simple percentages. Obviously not taking into account RPI/CPI/Inflation %s.
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