Nimrod R1 replacement

[PingDit]

Olddog: 'Incidently, anyone else out there got XV249 in their log book in all 3 of it's guises, MR1, MR2 and R1?'

Nope, only managed MR1 & 2 - but I remember it being one of the most reliable airframes!

[Daf Hucker]

Tag, got all 3 marks



Bu%$er....bang goes my cover story!

[Riskman]

sprucemoose

Pointless semantics, Riskman. The article says the three development aircraft are not under contract, and by definitition that means that they are not under contract "yet".

and implies that they won't be on contract, ever!

Not pointless semantics. It was speculation which was wrong when it was written and is still wrong now.

[AQAfive]

XV249

For those who missed the event. 249 was one of 4 ac stored in the woods at ISK. When 666 had a swim, 249 was taken out of the woods refurbished and flown to Marshalls of Cambridge for conversion to R1. The project was named 'Anneka', after Anneka Rice.

The remaining 3 ac were cut up and put in the back of an Antanov and flown to Hurn for conversion to MRA4.

I have another story about de-humidifiers and the 4 ac but I'll leave that for another day.

[JimmyTAP]

Just to correct a small point, XV249 was converted to R1 airframe standard at Woodford and fitted out at Waddington.

[sprucemoose]

I think you misread the article, Riskman, as I know for a fact that it was in no way meant to imply that the aircraft won't be converted ever. And if you read the new NAO report it shows that they got the sums wrong on what that will cost also!

Sorry Jacko, is EP-X in any way funded or contracted yet then? Don't think so mate.

[Jackonicko]

Study contracts let long ago

[sprucemoose]

Ah yes, small, six-year study contracts at that - hardly makes it viable as an R1 replacement though, does it?
Hope the new motor's still starting in this weather

[Jackonicko]

At a more advanced stage than any Nimrod R.Mk 5, though, Mr Moose.

And the motor is going very well, thanks.

[XV277]

Originally Posted by sprucemoose

To my mind this is a no-brainer. More than £3 billion has now been spent on the MRA4 project, so it can't be cancelled, and there are three good airframes sitting there that could very sensibly be converted as R1 replacements, ensuring fleet commonality where possible.

Only problem is they would have to go through a similar conversion process as XV249 did, as the underfloor panniers on the R are different to the bomb-bay on the MR/MRA - same external shape, but that's about all.

[OilCan]

same external shape, but that's about all.

except maybe the hydraulics, the main electrical distribution, the engines, 98% of the fuel system, 90% of the conditioning systems, ice protection systems, flying controls, undercarriage, brakes.....etc...

but other than that, yeah, completely different.

Oh, and no commonality whatsoever with training Air & Ground, maintenance support or Flt crew sim currency. Yeah deffo, completely different.

[bong-bing]

All,

Esp the last post, please don't post on something you know nothing about.....

Sorry to be so short its the Stella ya know....

Apart from Jacko- you seem better informed than most others on this forum