RAF Flight Ops Officers and Colour Vision
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RAF Flight Ops Officers and Colour Vision
I have found a document on the web which states that Flight Operations Officers in the RAF would require CP2 standards of Colour Perception to perform the role.
This document is dated Summer 2007, and I wondered if anyone can categorically confirm if this is still accurate.
I couldn't get the info from the RAF at an AFCO, and have tried searching on this board but without success.
Thanks in advance.
This document is dated Summer 2007, and I wondered if anyone can categorically confirm if this is still accurate.
I couldn't get the info from the RAF at an AFCO, and have tried searching on this board but without success.
Thanks in advance.
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That's a terrible comment on a fine body of people. With the recruitment problems that TG9, has it has become increasingly apparent that a Flight Ops Officer, with the correct training is able to operate at the level of a junior SAC. Regarding the colour blindness, I suppose it is possible that a Flight Ops Officer may be required to drive on an airfield, in this situation they would be required to differentiate between the turquoise traffic light and the turquoise traffic light.
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Molesworth, not at all. It is to be able to distinguish between white and black coffee.
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Hmm, cheeky kids!!!
I'll have you know, in my day, a seviceable pulse was all that was required.
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This link (you may have seen it) gives you some gen re Colour Blindness plus a phone number to ring.
Good Luck.
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I'll have you know, in my day, a seviceable pulse was all that was required.
Ex OpsO sends
This link (you may have seen it) gives you some gen re Colour Blindness plus a phone number to ring.
Good Luck.
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Thanks so far.
Basically, the job I'm interested in is Flight Ops as I know my colour blindness will preclude me from flying.
The AFCO told me to get an eyetest done with the Isihara and Homes-Wright lantern tests independently. The results are then sent to Cranwell and they would tell me whether I am up to Flight Ops eyesight standards. The AFCO told me that they can't do any more until I get my results back, and they couldn't find anything or anyone to advise on the specific eyesight requirements during my appointment with them.
I found a document online yesterday which had Flight Ops down as requiring CP2 colour standards, which I'm very sure I can't attain. At the moment, I'm trying to find out the standards required as it may save myself and the RAF the cost and hassle of eyetests and the Cranwell results.
Basically, the job I'm interested in is Flight Ops as I know my colour blindness will preclude me from flying.
The AFCO told me to get an eyetest done with the Isihara and Homes-Wright lantern tests independently. The results are then sent to Cranwell and they would tell me whether I am up to Flight Ops eyesight standards. The AFCO told me that they can't do any more until I get my results back, and they couldn't find anything or anyone to advise on the specific eyesight requirements during my appointment with them.
I found a document online yesterday which had Flight Ops down as requiring CP2 colour standards, which I'm very sure I can't attain. At the moment, I'm trying to find out the standards required as it may save myself and the RAF the cost and hassle of eyetests and the Cranwell results.
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AFAIR, CP2 is normal Red/Green perception.What are you like at traffic lights?
Can you tell Stop from Go?
This thread (on our pongo colleagues site) will probably muddy the waters further, but......
Army Rumour Service > > Forums > > Boards by Arm / Service (roughly) > > Just TA > > Addition to TA Medical
And this
http://www.assoc-optometrists.org/up...pdf/06-raf.pdf
AFAIR, CP2 is normal Red/Green perception.What are you like at traffic lights?
Can you tell Stop from Go?
This thread (on our pongo colleagues site) will probably muddy the waters further, but......
Army Rumour Service > > Forums > > Boards by Arm / Service (roughly) > > Just TA > > Addition to TA Medical
And this
http://www.assoc-optometrists.org/up...pdf/06-raf.pdf
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I wish we had a Flight Operations branch in the FAA....its a real pain doing it all yourself....and whilst Im drippin....how about some survival equipment people to look after our Flying clothing....that would be a bloomin novelty.
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Variance between RAF & RN eyesight standards
I do find it a lil bit strange that the RN and and the RAF have the following variance in eyesight standards:
All are stated min standards
RAF (Pilot)
Uncorrected 6/6
Corrected N/A (as 6/6 is as good as it gets)
RN (Pilot)
Uncorrected 6/12
Corrected 6/6
As (i understand it) all RN aircrew 'we' employ are taken on with the ultimate aim of getting them into single seat F/J ie GR7/9 and later JSF... (if they haven't collected their pension by then!!)
The RAF (i assume) does the same with a view to getting someone into a F/J.
Bottom line - if you eyesight is not up to the the RAF standard but can be corrected to 6/6 then you potentially good enough for the RN!
Making ready for the flood of Joe 90's tomorrow.....
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All are stated min standards
RAF (Pilot)
Uncorrected 6/6
Corrected N/A (as 6/6 is as good as it gets)
RN (Pilot)
Uncorrected 6/12
Corrected 6/6
As (i understand it) all RN aircrew 'we' employ are taken on with the ultimate aim of getting them into single seat F/J ie GR7/9 and later JSF... (if they haven't collected their pension by then!!)
The RAF (i assume) does the same with a view to getting someone into a F/J.
Bottom line - if you eyesight is not up to the the RAF standard but can be corrected to 6/6 then you potentially good enough for the RN!
Making ready for the flood of Joe 90's tomorrow.....
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The Duty Officer empties the bins..... after he has cleaned the crewroom.... Is that what Ops people do...? What do they really do and if they are important then why can't we have any?
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It is to be able to distinguish between white and black coffee.
..... they need to know the difference between blue and green chinagraph too
.....
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The copilot or one of the knockers. In my 6 tours in Ops not once did we ever do nutty bars.
And the telephone rules were quite simple. Nearest to the telephone answered the phone, nearest to the kettle made the coffee. RHNP.
And the telephone rules were quite simple. Nearest to the telephone answered the phone, nearest to the kettle made the coffee. RHNP.
Ive watched a series of Ops Spt OPSO's pass through the Sqn and can honestly say, with the right training, some may make competent corporals in the future.
Some, would make excellent DSS statistics.
Some, would make excellent DSS statistics.
