Hats on - advice needed

[N Joe]

I will never forget my first "hats on" interview for ordering engineering work that had delayed the sqn boss's departure on a weekend landaway to Tenerife. As mentioned in other posts, technically "JEngO, my office, now!" gave no warning of the topic for discussion, but there was no doubt in my mind.

N Joe

[NutLoose]

N JoeI will never forget my first "hats on" interview for ordering engineering work that had delayed the sqn boss's departure on a weekend landaway to Tenerife. As mentioned in other posts, technically "JEngO, my office, now!" gave no warning of the topic for discussion, but there was no doubt in my mind.

N Joe

Fraid they never get it in or out of the mob....... I snagged a jet off on a weekender from Deci to Gib for a hyd leak (fresh oil on the Eng doors), checked and cleared by relevant trades without taking doors off......was to see it off and was dripping when running.. positively spat his dummy out when i made him shut it down...... fact was he would have ended up swimming the last 50 odd miles when it was properly checked and found to have a serious leak seemed to have no bearing on the bloke....... grade A t*sser in my book. They seem to think you do it for the fun of it and not to keep them alive, something a lot of people forget when it suits....

[Saintsman]

I'd been involved in a little incident. Not my fault but I was the senior person there. Usual enquiry, following which I was summoned to my CO.

"The AOC has asked me to speak to you. I have spoken to you. Out"

With that I turned and left. A most sensible outcome.

[muttywhitedog]

Is this the "incident" referred to by the OP?

If not, how did it go OP?

If so, what "incident".

[glad rag]

It might be the case that the senior in question is doing you - sorry, your friend - a huge favor by keeping it to an in house "hats on", rather than allowing whatever the issue is to go any further. The best boss I ever had used to do anything within his powers to stop anything discussed at a one-sided interview leaving his desk. That earned him a serious amount of respect. He could bollock with the best of them, but you always went to him knowing that he'd do what he could to make sure it didn't escalate.

As a tech I was fortunate to have "met" 1 Lt RN, 2 FS and 1 WO who had qualities as above.

All could make a stone bleed as required.

All earned my undying TRUST and LOYALTY through their Dealt With At My DESK "bollockings"(and some wee extra QRA stints etc)

And they were all deserved for getting caught, LOL.

those were the days.....

[EESDL]

................was it a bollocking about posting on pprune?
if not, then what happened?

[talk_shy_tall_knight]

Odi circa 91-92

Skipping merrilly down the corridor towards the crewroom. Crewman Leader JD spots me as I pass his office.

JD: t_s_t_k!! COME HERE YOU ****!!!

ME: (thinks) oh sheise, this could be one of half a dozen things.

JD: WHAT THE FU...!!!

phone rings

JD: (on phone) Alright George...blah blah...sailing in the med...blah blah...lovely sunset...blah blah (feet up on desk) calm seas...blah blah...looking forward to it mate...

20 butt clenching minutes later

JD: blah blah...beautiful marina...blah blah...OK George talk to you later, bye.

JD: (To me) What the fug do you want?

ME: Er...just going to the crewroom for a brew boss, do you want one?

JD: Yeah go on then.



...and relax.

[I'm Off!]

Original poster needs to stop being such a lower deck lawyer, and his friend needs to man up and take the probably deserved hats on interview - this is the military, not the f*****g boyscouts.

[Postman Plod]

Lower deck lawyer? Hmmm ok, maybe, but whilst the majority of posts have been constructive, at the end of the day, all I've asked for was constructive advice so that I could pass on. No names, no details, so where is the problem? Military discipline is fine, particularly when you know the first thing about what its in relation to - I'm more than aware this isn't the boyscouts - don't think I implied it was?

As for the hats on, well it apparently quickly became a hats off, with constructive advice given to my friend that she should consider redress.

I'm saying no more other than that! Those of you who instantly assumed (not knowing any of the details or facts) she was in the wrong, well I'm afraid she wasn't.

Thanks for all your help and advice - negative and constructive is as useful as positive and constructive!

[1.3VStall]

Reminds me of the story about the Lightning mate having a hat on, no coffee interview with the staish.

Halfway through the tirade said mate stops the flow with "Excuse me sir..."

"What is it?"

"Well, sir, I was wondering if you can be court martialled for what you're thinking"

"Don't be so bloody silly, of course not"

"In that case, sir, I think you're a c*nt!"

Said mate retired from the Service having risen to the dizzy rank of flt lt!

[Tiger_mate]

Never heard that one before.

No seriously!

It is usually the SWO with an Airman who had mud on his shoes whilst entering the Airmans Mess. I far prefer the Lightning Mate version, and I dare say that once upon a time it was a Sopwith Camel driver.

[Mmmmnice]

so what if it's an ambush - isn't that what we did in the military until it became contrary to Health & Safety, Duty of Care, political correctness, and sundry other 'edgy' modern ideas? I suspect the hat won't be needed for the whole interview; unless she has done something spectacularly wrong and if that is the case she should have some idea of what the whole thing is about in the first place?