Military life - motivation?
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"I'm SFH!!" "I'm SFH!!" "I'm SFH!!"
Can't help feeling that the difference between post #59 and post #68 is that they were written by different people. Why the sudden reversion to "i", after he had cracked the capitalisation of it in #59? English was pretty good, grammar very acceptable from a supposedly 18 year-old.
Or am I being totally fooled by his reasoned arguements? Hell of a sea-change in a matter of hours. Perhaps it was a fishing trip/wind-up from the boarding officers at Cranwell, or whatever they're called now.
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Or am I being totally fooled by his reasoned arguements? Hell of a sea-change in a matter of hours. Perhaps it was a fishing trip/wind-up from the boarding officers at Cranwell, or whatever they're called now.
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Yeah you're right i pay a company to write some of my posts.
My grammar improves when i want it to. This is an internet forum, i am at work with stuff to do, i don't care for proof reading my posts most of the time and when i do take a moment to write a post, i may press shift ocasionally and the result is I instead of i.
What the f*uck difference does it really make? If you spelt bread wrong on your shopping list would you re-write the list?
Seriously, what a complete load of bullsh*t.
I apologize for the 'grammar pretty good for a supposedly 18 year-old'. I didn't even take English any further than GCSE
P.S i will edit this post and capitalize the 'i's' later, or maybe pay that company to re-write this whole post so that it meets the standards of the internet.
My grammar improves when i want it to. This is an internet forum, i am at work with stuff to do, i don't care for proof reading my posts most of the time and when i do take a moment to write a post, i may press shift ocasionally and the result is I instead of i.
What the f*uck difference does it really make? If you spelt bread wrong on your shopping list would you re-write the list?
Seriously, what a complete load of bullsh*t.
I apologize for the 'grammar pretty good for a supposedly 18 year-old'. I didn't even take English any further than GCSE
P.S i will edit this post and capitalize the 'i's' later, or maybe pay that company to re-write this whole post so that it meets the standards of the internet.
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You sound like just the sort of guy I'd LOVE to be on a Squadron with/sit next to on a flight deck. I foresee a wonderful career ahead of you in aviation regardless of which path you choose. You obviously take criticism well, can engage in healthy banter and are eloquent and educated enough to construct a well-reasoned and compelling case.
Or maybe not. Perhaps the world of forklift truck driving would miss you too much.
Or maybe not. Perhaps the world of forklift truck driving would miss you too much.
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One of the qualities looked for in any potential officer candidate is, funnily enough, quality. Whether it be in dress, speech, attitude, demeanour or written communications, where quality means getting it right first time. If you are playing around with multi-million pound bits of kit, like aircraft, then that quality is paramount.
Your posts would appear to written, by your own admission, in a lazy, couldn't really care, mode. I refer to the paragraph above.
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Your posts would appear to written, by your own admission, in a lazy, couldn't really care, mode. I refer to the paragraph above.
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So having written posts in a 'lazy, couldn't really care, mode' means that if i am in control of an aircraft, i am lazy and don't really care? And because i write i instead of I on the internet, that means i would do it on a C.V or application form?
Come on John, let's be realistic here.
Come on John, let's be realistic here.
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No, i don't see me comming across as a 'knob'. I ask for advice on here, i get more insults than help. I re-read, realise a lot of it is banter, write to apologise and now it's happening all again.
What chance do I have. I didn't study English at Oxford, neither did a lot of pilots, i have explained that i don't have time for proof reading any posts on the internet, yet people are still picking out f*cking mistakes as if it matters!
People really don't want to be on a flight deck with me? Well i wouldn't want to be on a flight deck with anyone that feels it is necessary to insult me if i ask a question.
No-one on here knows anything about me, my qualifications, abilities etc yet still see fit to "predict" and "suggest" that i am a complete failure and will never get a job.
It doesn't seem to matter what i write, i will still be put down. Earlier i was told to grow up because i DIDN'T go out drinking every night. I have been called gay, i have been called a knob as well as the other personal attacks that have been issued. If i apologise for taking things too seriously i am bombarded with criticism, if i stand up for myself, the same happens.
What chance do I have. I didn't study English at Oxford, neither did a lot of pilots, i have explained that i don't have time for proof reading any posts on the internet, yet people are still picking out f*cking mistakes as if it matters!
People really don't want to be on a flight deck with me? Well i wouldn't want to be on a flight deck with anyone that feels it is necessary to insult me if i ask a question.
No-one on here knows anything about me, my qualifications, abilities etc yet still see fit to "predict" and "suggest" that i am a complete failure and will never get a job.
It doesn't seem to matter what i write, i will still be put down. Earlier i was told to grow up because i DIDN'T go out drinking every night. I have been called gay, i have been called a knob as well as the other personal attacks that have been issued. If i apologise for taking things too seriously i am bombarded with criticism, if i stand up for myself, the same happens.
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Super thread, almost takes me back to crew room days!
SFH......please apply and let us know how it goes.
For reference, I applied in the 60's 'cos the advert said I could earn more as a fighter pilot in the RAF than I could earn as an insurance surveyor in the City. This was true, however I didn't know one end of an aeroplane from t'other, and had no military background or interests. To everybodies surprise I was accepted, and never looked back for 19 years. Mind you, despite flying as a civilian, post RAF, on the same military aircraft for several years, there are some who say that I still don't know one end of a jet from the other, nor do I pretend to understand the military mind, but if you've "got it" there is no better way of life.
SFH......please apply and let us know how it goes.
For reference, I applied in the 60's 'cos the advert said I could earn more as a fighter pilot in the RAF than I could earn as an insurance surveyor in the City. This was true, however I didn't know one end of an aeroplane from t'other, and had no military background or interests. To everybodies surprise I was accepted, and never looked back for 19 years. Mind you, despite flying as a civilian, post RAF, on the same military aircraft for several years, there are some who say that I still don't know one end of a jet from the other, nor do I pretend to understand the military mind, but if you've "got it" there is no better way of life.
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So having written posts in a 'lazy, couldn't really care, mode' means that if i am in control of an aircraft, i am lazy and don't really care? And because i write i instead of I on the internet, that means i would do it on a C.V or application form?
)The problem is the attitude sneaks up on you and you start doing the wrong thing when you meant to do the right thing. I had someone apply for employment with me once who spelled his last name incorrectly...
Laugh, I nearly died... How do I know he had misspelled his name? It was spelled one way on his CV and another way on the cover letter. Needless to say, he didn't get an interview. That should be a lesson to you: Don't believe that an, apparently, inconsequential and obscure error will not be noticed. Attention to detail is important in my work - I practice it and expect my employees to practice it too.
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i have explained that i don't have time for proof reading any posts on the internet
Sloppiness, arrogance, lack of real commitment, or just being plain lazy. If you use Firefox it does it for you, even. How hard is that?
Dry your eyes, Princess. Here's your first ride:
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Or maybe i really don't have time for it? I jump on the computer in between jobs at work and quickly type out a post before continuing with what i was doing. This means that i am a complete tw*t and i will never get a flying job. 
If you had 1 minute to do the pre-flight inspection, pre-start and after start checks, im sure you would make a mistake but maybe you could take your time with all the checks and have just done the best pre-flights ever.
If you had 1 minute to do the pre-flight inspection, pre-start and after start checks, im sure you would make a mistake but maybe you could take your time with all the checks and have just done the best pre-flights ever.
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If you had 1 minute to do the pre-flight inspection, pre-start and after start checks, im sure you would make a mistake but maybe you could take your time with all the checks and have just done the best pre-flights ever.
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If you had 1 minute to do the pre-flight inspection, pre-start and after start checks, im sure you would make a mistake but maybe you could take your time with all the checks and have just done the best pre-flights ever.
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I am making a comparison. I dont have time to proof read and apply the English Language to my full ability. So what? Shall i tell my boss?
"Erm, excuse me but i have been receiving a lot of irrelevant complaints about my spelling and grammar so i will need to have a longer lunch break in future. Im sure you understand....oh what was that? You are too busy at the moment? I don't understand? You must make time to listen to me because it is far more important."
Apparently on these forums you are not allowed to do anything quickly and you must take your time to write posts and then have them checked by third part companies to ensure that there is absolutly no mistakes.
"Erm, excuse me but i have been receiving a lot of irrelevant complaints about my spelling and grammar so i will need to have a longer lunch break in future. Im sure you understand....oh what was that? You are too busy at the moment? I don't understand? You must make time to listen to me because it is far more important."
Apparently on these forums you are not allowed to do anything quickly and you must take your time to write posts and then have them checked by third part companies to ensure that there is absolutly no mistakes.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
In aviation less work is never an option. Until the solar system is readjusted more time is also limiting at about 24 hours per day.
SFH your responses and replies are so good that the whole thread should be moved to the wanabee sticky. Two of the lessons drummed into me in initial training were plan ahead and attention to detail.
My father also taught me that if a job is worth doing it is worth doing well. Later I learnt from experience that there are two ways to do a job, the quick and the proper. The difference is that you always have to do the proper job even if you did it the quick way first.
In your case, if you have insufficient time to do the job in a minute, wait until you have time to do it properly. Attention to detail saves lives, taking short cuts kills people. Taking short cuts means flying with pins in - bomb pins, seat pins, undercarriage pins - we all do it but we also learn from it and allow sufficient time to do it properly. If we come under pressure then we recognise this and s l o w down to eliminate errors.
Final advice? Change your nickname and repost in the sticky.
Proper fruitcakery. This is great!
SFH - I gave you the benefit of the doubt to begin with, but you are either a wind up merchant, or T.A.P.S.
My final words of advice to you would be to stop talking when it is obvious you don't know what it is your talking about.
If I was you, I'd cut your losses and go back to whatever it is youve been doing for the other 3 days of your adult life.
SFH - I gave you the benefit of the doubt to begin with, but you are either a wind up merchant, or T.A.P.S.
My final words of advice to you would be to stop talking when it is obvious you don't know what it is your talking about.
If I was you, I'd cut your losses and go back to whatever it is youve been doing for the other 3 days of your adult life.
