Cranwell Hawk Thread
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Just saw the pics today. Personally, I think they will need more filler than they ordered. I did feel very sorry for the poor folks who's cars got twated, but thats life.
Truely, looking at the shots, it was an amazingly lucky outcome.
Hope the Driver and his mate are OK and on the mend.
(DW- Best wishes mate, hope all turns out OK.)
Advo
Truely, looking at the shots, it was an amazingly lucky outcome.
Hope the Driver and his mate are OK and on the mend.
(DW- Best wishes mate, hope all turns out OK.)
Advo
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I was chatting to your back seater a few days ago. Seemed to be in good spirits, bit of back ache...
Get well soon, the hangar party must be soon & it would be a shame for you to miss the inevitable banter from the guys!
Get well soon, the hangar party must be soon & it would be a shame for you to miss the inevitable banter from the guys!
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I remember the uncontained turbine failure on an F111 over Bicester in the last years of U-HYFD. Took out a large quantity of cars in an animal feed mill carpark as i recall got in the nationals and they altered the approach to avoid overstressing the old girls
Must have made an interesting claim to uncle Sam
Still waiting for the official public word on "our" GR7 down at Cottesmore the other month, athough I doubt it will be the same result as the local rumour mill.
Must have made an interesting claim to uncle Sam
Still waiting for the official public word on "our" GR7 down at Cottesmore the other month, athough I doubt it will be the same result as the local rumour mill.
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The whole episode is a farce as it is being covered up all because it was a certain Wg Cdr (Reds I'm led to believe) in the seat with a pax! Nothing in RAF News, no information in the press anymore. 
This is 2nd hand info I confess, but the source is good as he lives nearby
It's an embarrassment and my guess is the subsequent BOI will be hush hush too...
Rank does have it's privileges
Oh..did I say that out loud!!!
This is 2nd hand info I confess, but the source is good as he lives nearby
It's an embarrassment and my guess is the subsequent BOI will be hush hush too...
Rank does have it's privileges
Oh..did I say that out loud!!!
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TDTWC.
So thats 1 post as a probationary pruner and already exposing identities.
I am not knowledgable about this incident, other than the press and here, however I am no defender of the winged bretheren but:
What does it matter who was driving or riding in the back, as long as they got out safely.
As with all other incidents, wait for the BOI.
simply doesn't cut it. 
So thats 1 post as a probationary pruner and already exposing identities.
I am not knowledgable about this incident, other than the press and here, however I am no defender of the winged bretheren but:
What does it matter who was driving or riding in the back, as long as they got out safely.
As with all other incidents, wait for the BOI.
"This is 2nd hand info I confess, but the source is good as he lives nearby"
TDTWC - do you seriously think that the press is going to cover the crash of a Hawk (thankfully non-fatal) which occurred a fortnight ago? There's no story for them to run - particularly not when there was a fatal airliner crash to be going on with, along with an array of stories ranging from the British economy collapsing through to the fact that Kiera Knightly is awfully pretty...
Second, are you taking the customary silence accompanying the investigation to be a cover-up? Would you prefer lots of ill-informed and possibly wildly inaccurate speculation to be bandied about? Or do you know something more sinister about this?
Third - since there have been quite a few postings elsewhere suggesting mechanical issues with the u/c were to blame, it would appear that the undercarriage leg must have received a commission. No wonder the RAF's anxious to cover this up using the privilege of high rank to disguise the fact that it's having give bits of aeroplanes commissioned rank...
Fourth - if the rumours alluded to in three above are correct, you may well have libelled the pilot. Would you like to post the name and address of your solicitor here? It might save time later...
Second, are you taking the customary silence accompanying the investigation to be a cover-up? Would you prefer lots of ill-informed and possibly wildly inaccurate speculation to be bandied about? Or do you know something more sinister about this?
Third - since there have been quite a few postings elsewhere suggesting mechanical issues with the u/c were to blame, it would appear that the undercarriage leg must have received a commission. No wonder the RAF's anxious to cover this up using the privilege of high rank to disguise the fact that it's having give bits of aeroplanes commissioned rank...
Fourth - if the rumours alluded to in three above are correct, you may well have libelled the pilot. Would you like to post the name and address of your solicitor here? It might save time later...
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TDTWC, I imagine the so-called "cover-up" would still be occuring irrespective of rank of the pilot. It is called "professionalism and courtesy" and letting due process take its course by showing respect for the BoI.
Back to the subject of my OP (and a bit OT), I forgot that threads can dissappear when the poster deletes the lead post. Reminded me of when I did the same and had a moderator reinstate the thread and berate me for deleting it, but that is another story. (And the reason I didn't post on PPRuNE for over 2 years)
Nice to be back and browsing this MA board, seems to be more grown up than the rest of the site.
Back to the subject of my OP (and a bit OT), I forgot that threads can dissappear when the poster deletes the lead post. Reminded me of when I did the same and had a moderator reinstate the thread and berate me for deleting it, but that is another story. (And the reason I didn't post on PPRuNE for over 2 years)
Nice to be back and browsing this MA board, seems to be more grown up than the rest of the site.
I've now seen several pictures of the broken Hawk, but can't see any evidence of its wheels being down. I guess they could have been raised on the ground, or perhaps were not down in the first place.
An old friend of mine did a Hawk 'gear up' landing many years ago. Selected the gear Down in the front cockpit, but the rear selector (master) was on Up - not Front! Thankfully they also walked away in one piece.
An old friend of mine did a Hawk 'gear up' landing many years ago. Selected the gear Down in the front cockpit, but the rear selector (master) was on Up - not Front! Thankfully they also walked away in one piece.
So easy from the armchair.....
Great work. Now could you offer your services to the official BOI to save them a waste of time and effort?
"And welcome home, sir. Undercarriage lever a bit sticky, was it sir?"
"Well, yes. As a matter of fact it was."
"Well I wouldn't tell the CO that, sir. Not if I were you"
"Well, yes. As a matter of fact it was."
"Well I wouldn't tell the CO that, sir. Not if I were you"
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Hmmm..............First time I've seen the photos, but the airframe doesn't look too bad at all...........bit of Harry maskers and she'll be up in the air again in next to no time............
Chuffed that the crew got out safely.
Chuffed that the crew got out safely.
