Inflight Rationing
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Inflight Rationing
I have been hearing strong rumours that crews, while deployed on a JPA type FSI will now be accountable for their own in flight.
By this I mean you get your rates issued (Capped actuals!), but now the fun police want crews to pay for inflight rationing out of their rates, essentially out of their own pockets.
I have to ask is this sensible? Please discuss.
By this I mean you get your rates issued (Capped actuals!), but now the fun police want crews to pay for inflight rationing out of their rates, essentially out of their own pockets.
I have to ask is this sensible? Please discuss.
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Eating is Cheating when boozing, not Flying!!!!!
OMG, Is it just me or are the RAF trying to make operating away from base as hard as possible!
Whilst deployed away from base I have enough to worry about without adding receipts, buying my own meals for flying and not going over the ever-shrinking rate.
Anyway, I might lose a bit of weight on those long flights where I didn't get a chance to pop to the Tesco before flying (just give me a nudge at TOD incase my energy levels have dropped so low that staying awake and alert becomes difficult)
Whilst deployed away from base I have enough to worry about without adding receipts, buying my own meals for flying and not going over the ever-shrinking rate.
Anyway, I might lose a bit of weight on those long flights where I didn't get a chance to pop to the Tesco before flying (just give me a nudge at TOD incase my energy levels have dropped so low that staying awake and alert becomes difficult)
Well, it will be interesting to see this enforced. I suppose the normal Daily subsistence will run from crew in rather from after landing, therefore a 3 1/2 her MCT sortie outof brize will earn a full day's rate. likewise, nightstop at destination 7 hrs away with 16hrs on the ground = 30 hrs chock to chock therefore 2 days actuals to get through rather than one. Which bunch of idiots thought this one through? Personaly, I quite like Pax meals anyway.
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another wind up , good try though
you really think in this time and moment with people of all trades leaving especially aircrew are going to accept this , its another I heard the Jengo mention it blah blah , get a life and stop ******* about spreading rumours ballbag
you really think in this time and moment with people of all trades leaving especially aircrew are going to accept this , its another I heard the Jengo mention it blah blah , get a life and stop ******* about spreading rumours ballbag
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<Sigh> There was a time we partied on Aircrew rations..
This is one of those occasions where I'm pleased I'm getting older... I remember when here were, actually, good times...
This is one of those occasions where I'm pleased I'm getting older... I remember when here were, actually, good times...
Rates in proprtion to ground time? A bit like Breakfst Lunch and Dinner rates, as were in place until about ......2 years ago when JPA occured? The answer would be to not draw money from the FSI, buy your own food etc then claim it all back on a regular JPA expenses claim IAW JSP 752 which mentions nothing about reduced ground time (>5hrs in one location= a full days entitlement.) All a load of old box and one more reason to work for someone else. IMHO..
ox and one more reason to work for someone else. IMHO..
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How about making the in-flight edible/ healthy before they consider this. Having said that I have heard that a bratty and chips does contain all the major food groups 
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KeepItTidy,
Just because YOU have not heard anything about it or YOU don't beleive it doesn't mean it is "Made-up BKs"!!!!
I agree with you in that it would just hammer another nail into the Retension coffin, but you must know by now that saving a few thousand pounds in a FY gets people promoted, whilst there is no measure of how much losing even more experienced aircrew costs!
The "they wouldn't dare" attitude is naive.
Just because YOU have not heard anything about it or YOU don't beleive it doesn't mean it is "Made-up B
Ks"!!!!I agree with you in that it would just hammer another nail into the Retension coffin, but you must know by now that saving a few thousand pounds in a FY gets people promoted, whilst there is no measure of how much losing even more experienced aircrew costs!
The "they wouldn't dare" attitude is naive.
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Some one is touchy here.
Xert, looks like you need a nudge not only at TOD, but on ground too.
Keepittidy, is perfectly entitled to his opinion as much as you are
I never joined RAF for the food, how things have changed
Xert, looks like you need a nudge not only at TOD, but on ground too.
Keepittidy, is perfectly entitled to his opinion as much as you are
I never joined RAF for the food, how things have changed
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All I hear makes me sooo glad I left in July !!! Why do penny pinchers insist on doing things that just add to the list of push-factors; when the list gets long enough valuable assets of all trades take the jump to civvy street meaning those left behind just have to work that bit harder. I truly hoped things would get better for those I left behind (and not just by my leaving!!) but when rumours like this frequently get substantiated it makes me very sad. 
I truly hoped things would get better for those I left behind (and not just by my leaving!!) but when rumours like this frequently get substantiated it makes me very sad.
The idiot bean counters should always remember that, if you pay for something you become a 'customer' and, as such, have Customer Rights....
Whilst it might perhaps not be unreasonable to examine the scale of in-flight rationing (I never did understand why I was entitled to a meal when flying from 1400-1800 in the UK, for example), to expect people to pay may have flight safety repercussions. For example, the person who decides that he/she won't pay and chooses to starve (less of a problem in the days before the gel-haired gym-queens invented fitness tests) - or the person who decides to bring his/her own food which hasn't been prepared in an 'aircraft catering' kitchen - and goes down with the Turkish two-step for the whole flight.
It really isn't worth the effort of these silly sods buggering about with in-flight rations - all it will do is to cause resentment.
One pilot PVR-ing early costs £M to replace - how many ACCs or S1 boxes would that buy?
Why don't your so-called leaders (I can say that these days without fear of retribution now Daisy, you ar$e) tell these penny-pinching f*ckwits to do one?
Whilst it might perhaps not be unreasonable to examine the scale of in-flight rationing (I never did understand why I was entitled to a meal when flying from 1400-1800 in the UK, for example), to expect people to pay may have flight safety repercussions. For example, the person who decides that he/she won't pay and chooses to starve (less of a problem in the days before the gel-haired gym-queens invented fitness tests) - or the person who decides to bring his/her own food which hasn't been prepared in an 'aircraft catering' kitchen - and goes down with the Turkish two-step for the whole flight.
It really isn't worth the effort of these silly sods buggering about with in-flight rations - all it will do is to cause resentment.
One pilot PVR-ing early costs £M to replace - how many ACCs or S1 boxes would that buy?
Why don't your so-called leaders (I can say that these days without fear of retribution now Daisy, you ar$e) tell these penny-pinching f*ckwits to do one?