Falklands Airbridge
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The larger freight capacity is to cater for larger items like Tornado engines which the 747 could accommodate. It also means a better supply of fresh rations.
The re-supply ship is about every 6 to 8 weeks if it is not delayed. It then of course takes time to unload and distribute the cargo.
The re-supply ship is about every 6 to 8 weeks if it is not delayed. It then of course takes time to unload and distribute the cargo.
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Average Pax load last year was around 150 and I don't suppose that it has changed much. I believe the max is 200 limited due to facilities at ASI. The DC10 certainly couldn't accommodate the Tornado Engine.
Average Pax load last year was around 150 and I don't suppose that it has changed much. I believe the max is 200 limited due to facilities at ASI. The DC10 certainly couldn't accommodate the Tornado Engine.
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Cheers 'Techie.
What are the approximate dimensions & weight of a crated & palletised RB199? Was the problem with the DC-10 the size of the cargo bay door?
With a 200 pax. requirement, the B763 can still lift 20 tonnes of freight & 56 tonnes of fuel.
Why isn't the Airbridge run more frequently, assuming it's still 1 rotation per week?
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Ponsh.
What are the approximate dimensions & weight of a crated & palletised RB199? Was the problem with the DC-10 the size of the cargo bay door?
With a 200 pax. requirement, the B763 can still lift 20 tonnes of freight & 56 tonnes of fuel.
Why isn't the Airbridge run more frequently, assuming it's still 1 rotation per week?
Cheers
Ponsh.
You see what I mean, C130 Techie?
Allegedly an officer. Clearly not a gentleman, given the degree of personal abuse to which he evidently feels obliged to stoop.
Allegedly an officer. Clearly not a gentleman, given the degree of personal abuse to which he evidently feels obliged to stoop.
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RB199 weighs about 2,200 Lbs not sure what the palletisation will add. Problem as you suggest was size of Cargo door on the DC10.
Schedule is 3 flights every 2 weeks.
Beagle
Yes. Reasoned argument without resorting to abuse seems to be too difficult for some.
It does hack me off when people claim that those not constantly in the sandpit are malingerers or war dodgers. We all have a job to do and the 1200 - 1400 guys and girls in the South Atlantic are just as important even if they are on a 'safer' tour. Everyone is entitled to a safe and reliable flight to get them in and out of any theatre.
RB199 weighs about 2,200 Lbs not sure what the palletisation will add. Problem as you suggest was size of Cargo door on the DC10.
Schedule is 3 flights every 2 weeks.
Beagle
Yes. Reasoned argument without resorting to abuse seems to be too difficult for some.
It does hack me off when people claim that those not constantly in the sandpit are malingerers or war dodgers. We all have a job to do and the 1200 - 1400 guys and girls in the South Atlantic are just as important even if they are on a 'safer' tour. Everyone is entitled to a safe and reliable flight to get them in and out of any theatre.
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This thread gentlemen, is taking a dive. It is in danger of getting out of hand. The invective must cease before it becomes necessary for a red card to be shown and someone sent for an early bath.
Please stick to the topic with no abuse.
Please stick to the topic with no abuse.
According to Falkand Islands News Network -
"The new South Atlantic Airbridge contract has been awarded to Chapman Freeborn: the service will be operated by ‘flyglobespan’ using a B767 aircraft four times per fortnight with effect from Wednesday 1 October 2008. The airbridge is run under a two-year contract with two one-year options, expected to run until 2012. The airbridge will leave Brize Norton southbound on Wednesdays and Sundays, and it will leave Mount Pleasant northbound on Fridays and Tuesdays.
The aircraft will operate at timings very similar to those in operation with the current schedule. Details will be confirmed as soon as possible.
This service provides a higher frequency of flights than the previous arrangement, which offered three flights per fortnight, as well as an enhanced aeromedical and freight capability.
The aircraft is chartered to carry 184 passengers on each flight. Although designed to carry more passengers, the extra payload will be used solely for freight and the extra fuel required for a journey of this length.
Twenty-nine seats will be reserved on each service for the use of the Falkland Island Government. Twenty six seats will be reserved for the use of the Ascension Island Government. These allocations reflect the statements of requirement as each Overseas Territory set out for a fortnightly period, adjusted by the change in service from three to four times every two weeks. "
"The new South Atlantic Airbridge contract has been awarded to Chapman Freeborn: the service will be operated by ‘flyglobespan’ using a B767 aircraft four times per fortnight with effect from Wednesday 1 October 2008. The airbridge is run under a two-year contract with two one-year options, expected to run until 2012. The airbridge will leave Brize Norton southbound on Wednesdays and Sundays, and it will leave Mount Pleasant northbound on Fridays and Tuesdays.
The aircraft will operate at timings very similar to those in operation with the current schedule. Details will be confirmed as soon as possible.
This service provides a higher frequency of flights than the previous arrangement, which offered three flights per fortnight, as well as an enhanced aeromedical and freight capability.
The aircraft is chartered to carry 184 passengers on each flight. Although designed to carry more passengers, the extra payload will be used solely for freight and the extra fuel required for a journey of this length.
Twenty-nine seats will be reserved on each service for the use of the Falkland Island Government. Twenty six seats will be reserved for the use of the Ascension Island Government. These allocations reflect the statements of requirement as each Overseas Territory set out for a fortnightly period, adjusted by the change in service from three to four times every two weeks. "
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Not a fan of that decision to be honest, loved the 747, 4 engines over lots of water... Dc10- just nasty! Now down to two engines for a long flight over open water.. nice 
In all seriousness though, I don't think you could beat the Jumbo for comfort and flexibility, RAF should buy a handful to solve most of our transport problems.
In all seriousness though, I don't think you could beat the Jumbo for comfort and flexibility, RAF should buy a handful to solve most of our transport problems.
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SAR in FKI
BRANDNEW.
"Having spoken to a few SAR chums, it's amazing how many people secretly admit to enjoying their time in the Falklands. What will happen "down south" when military SAR goes "civvy" in a few years? Will Bristow's take over, or will we keep a small detatchment active? Do people think it will be dangerous to have no military SH / SAR / AT supporting this theatre; in addition, will the FJ supply chain suffer?"
Why say "Bristow take over", do you know something the rest of us does not????
Do your SAR chums know something?? come on please tell.
"Having spoken to a few SAR chums, it's amazing how many people secretly admit to enjoying their time in the Falklands. What will happen "down south" when military SAR goes "civvy" in a few years? Will Bristow's take over, or will we keep a small detatchment active? Do people think it will be dangerous to have no military SH / SAR / AT supporting this theatre; in addition, will the FJ supply chain suffer?"
Why say "Bristow take over", do you know something the rest of us does not????
Do your SAR chums know something?? come on please tell.
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Nice to know that tax payer's money is coming back to a UK airline instead of going to a foreign carrier - would imagine the B767 is a lot more comfortable as well compared to the death cruiser?
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See the link at BEagle's post #39 !! I think their will be tears if Globespan provide the same level of service to the Services that is described by most of those whom post on that link. 
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FlyGlobeSpan fined for flying faulty jet - Liverpool Echo.co.uk
It seems we're choosing the pick of the crop, once again.
It seems we're choosing the pick of the crop, once again.
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The South Atlantic schedule although appearing straightforward has a lot of potential to be quite challenging. The Falklands itself has weather patterns that can change for the worse very quickly and are difficult to forcast. Mount Pleasant is prone to high crosswinds due to the runway direction and diversion airfields along the route are some distance away.
The MOD have decided to award this to an airline that once had it's ETOPS approval removed and has been fined for operating outside the MEL.
I don't suppose it was the cheapest bid!
The MOD have decided to award this to an airline that once had it's ETOPS approval removed and has been fined for operating outside the MEL.
I don't suppose it was the cheapest bid!
)... Didn't Mr Branson offer a 747 FOC at some time?
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"Travelling by C130 is the best way of getting there considering you'll get to night stop Gran Canaria, Asi and Rio."
So the chance to get a free ride to 3 great "nights out" and still some mealy mouthed chimp bleats
"With the crew on rates in a 5* and the pax on capped actuals in a youth hostel." absolute stroker
So the chance to get a free ride to 3 great "nights out" and still some mealy mouthed chimp bleats
"With the crew on rates in a 5* and the pax on capped actuals in a youth hostel." absolute stroker