Final work-up to Typhoon FGR.4
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this adolescent is mature enough to know we should be staying on topic, if you have a problem with what i or anyone else have been saying let us know in a pm or email.
how soon could the FGR4 be deployed to the front lines following the success of these tests?
how soon could the FGR4 be deployed to the front lines following the success of these tests?
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Doesn't matter what it's called.......Just as long is can carry a decent load, (Which it sure can) then thats all that matters.
I'm not sure how soon, I believe theres only a handful of FGR4's right now, and theres 100 pilots qualified to to fly 'solo'. Eurofighter Typhoon - Maybe in about, few months? If they don't rush things......To get tests & training or whatever they do up & running with other FGR4's & pilots.......Not sure. I guess thats why the RAF are sending Tornado GR4's to Afghanistan soon.....
"i would expect the current default loadout to consist of at least 2 wing tanks due to the way conflicts are going, in order to maximise time on station, plus how often are more than eight 1000lb bombs required by a 2 ship CAS flight?"
Yeah, I would expect that too. Eight 1000lb bombs will more than enough for a CAS flight I think. And even with two wing tanks each, the load is still alot better than that of two Tornado GR4's.
With two Tornado's on CAS, how many LGB's can they carry with one of them with a laser pod? One Tornado with three LGB's, the other with only one & a laser pod. Even one Typhoon can do the work of two Tornado's on CAS. (Correct me if I'm wrong).
I'm not sure how soon, I believe theres only a handful of FGR4's right now, and theres 100 pilots qualified to to fly 'solo'. Eurofighter Typhoon - Maybe in about, few months? If they don't rush things......To get tests & training or whatever they do up & running with other FGR4's & pilots.......Not sure. I guess thats why the RAF are sending Tornado GR4's to Afghanistan soon.....
"i would expect the current default loadout to consist of at least 2 wing tanks due to the way conflicts are going, in order to maximise time on station, plus how often are more than eight 1000lb bombs required by a 2 ship CAS flight?"
Yeah, I would expect that too. Eight 1000lb bombs will more than enough for a CAS flight I think. And even with two wing tanks each, the load is still alot better than that of two Tornado GR4's.
With two Tornado's on CAS, how many LGB's can they carry with one of them with a laser pod? One Tornado with three LGB's, the other with only one & a laser pod. Even one Typhoon can do the work of two Tornado's on CAS. (Correct me if I'm wrong).
XV277, Gainesy and Safety_Helmut - how right you are!
PPRuNe Military is deteriorating significantly under the number of spotters and kids who have infiltrated the forum.
Nowadays it's a shadow of its former self.....
But then again, so is the RAF.
PPRuNe Military is deteriorating significantly under the number of spotters and kids who have infiltrated the forum.
Nowadays it's a shadow of its former self.....
But then again, so is the RAF.
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Just reading the Air Forces Monthly Article , and was wondering, the bottom of their page 64, the Tiffy being loaded with paveways. Directly behind the paveway that is being loaded, the typhoon appears to have an oddly shaped pod on its starboard wing that has flaked a lot of paint on the upper surface.
Is this just malpositioning of something random, or something else? Certainly does not look like a fuel tank.
Looking again, could it just be the shadows from the netting in the roof of the hangar? Either way, should the paint be flaking off that quickly?
Is this just malpositioning of something random, or something else? Certainly does not look like a fuel tank.
Looking again, could it just be the shadows from the netting in the roof of the hangar? Either way, should the paint be flaking off that quickly?
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Hmmmmm? I get the feeling that some of us (Non pilots) aren't welcome here.......
Military Aircrew A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here.
No, it's not - there are plenty of people other than engineers. The problem, with the greatest respect, is the nature of the posts that Tiffy and Theron have made.
The posts, while in some ways perfectly reasonable in terms of asking questions about Typhoon and the GR4 didn't need to include the 'Granny's Guide to Sucking Eggs', replete with generalistations about the capabilities of the GR4 versus Typhoon in CAS based on the number of PWII it can carry.
When someone with over, what, 13,000 posts on here suggests that perhaps the thread is a bit spotterish, a sentiment that has already been aired by some posters, it's probably a good idea to wonder why this observation has been made and whether questions could be phrased in a more sophisticated fashion, rather than going on to ask a question about Typhoon's availability which has been answered as clearly as OPSEC will allow in the Daily Mail (FFS!)and numerous other sources, including this forum.
I doubt that many people here - aircrew, engineer, journos who have survived contact and come back for more - would object to Tiffy and Theron asking the odd question here and there to improve levels of knowledge, but just telling us what Eurofighter GMbH say that the Typhoon can hang under its wings isn't going to win people over.
The advice given to Stephen Coonts' character Jake Grafton about how to behave on first contact with people more experienced than him - 'Son, keep your mouth shut and your bowels open, and you'll do fine' works pretty well here. Along with a high banter threshold, obviously.
The posts, while in some ways perfectly reasonable in terms of asking questions about Typhoon and the GR4 didn't need to include the 'Granny's Guide to Sucking Eggs', replete with generalistations about the capabilities of the GR4 versus Typhoon in CAS based on the number of PWII it can carry.
When someone with over, what, 13,000 posts on here suggests that perhaps the thread is a bit spotterish, a sentiment that has already been aired by some posters, it's probably a good idea to wonder why this observation has been made and whether questions could be phrased in a more sophisticated fashion, rather than going on to ask a question about Typhoon's availability which has been answered as clearly as OPSEC will allow in the Daily Mail (FFS!)and numerous other sources, including this forum.
I doubt that many people here - aircrew, engineer, journos who have survived contact and come back for more - would object to Tiffy and Theron asking the odd question here and there to improve levels of knowledge, but just telling us what Eurofighter GMbH say that the Typhoon can hang under its wings isn't going to win people over.
The advice given to Stephen Coonts' character Jake Grafton about how to behave on first contact with people more experienced than him - 'Son, keep your mouth shut and your bowels open, and you'll do fine' works pretty well here. Along with a high banter threshold, obviously.
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I guess thats why the RAF are sending Tornado GR4's to Afghanistan soon.....
Or could it be that if Typhoon was sent you would instantly lose 4 Sqns or GR4's overnight - a la 6 Sqn??
It might not be fashionable but the Tornado GR4 has a lot more work to do before it is replaced by Typhoon.
You might be flying too high. Where will all these operational Typhoons come from?
Could the current Typhoon fleet sustain an operational detachment, or do we need to wait for at least one more squadron to stand up?
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Well the answer to the last post is most likely yes probably?? but who know's....
Aside from that, I recall recently David Cameron stating that He would can Tranche 3 if the Connies ever get back into power (Groan...)
So thats another bunch of Brainless morons who are most likely to try and get rid of the most capable Tranche, and leave us with the most basic (and eventually most Sh**ed) airframes...
Something for everyone to ponder perhaps???
Not that DC or GB would care anyway....
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Aside from that, I recall recently David Cameron stating that He would can Tranche 3 if the Connies ever get back into power (Groan...)
So thats another bunch of Brainless morons who are most likely to try and get rid of the most capable Tranche, and leave us with the most basic (and eventually most Sh**ed) airframes...
Something for everyone to ponder perhaps???
Not that DC or GB would care anyway....
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Goodbye Typhoon Tranche 3?
Who will pick up the difference eh?