Half of the Armed Forces considering quitting!
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Half of the Armed Forces considering quitting!
Its amazing how when the reality of life outside of the wire begins to become apparent these whingers don't shut up whinging but also don't do anything about it. The lure of monthly beer tokens and being able to turn up for work on Friday morning half-cut rather than a wage, having to budget your life and the prospect of being sacked if you turn up for work still p!ssed must be quite strong.
I left last year, I had filled one of these attitude surveys in as honestly as I could and even though I'm subject to a few years of reserve service wild horses couldn't drag me back into the mob unless there was a real and direct threat to the nation.
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I think perhaps the title should really be "Half of the Armed Forces consider quitting but very few have the courage of their convictions".
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BEagle, you could I think add St. Eval and perhaps Jutby and Weston Zoyland and that elcludes the now shut RNAS airfields, Ford being one.....
It is really quite sobering to see how the once great UK armed forces have shrunk over the last 30 ish years......what will be left in 2038?
MB
It is really quite sobering to see how the once great UK armed forces have shrunk over the last 30 ish years......what will be left in 2038?
MB
No, St. Eval closed in 1959 which was long before even I joined the mob. Weston Zoyland I remember well as a lad (particularly all the wrecked aircraft in the crash compound), but it closed in 1958. Jurby? Used to bomb the sea targets when I flew Vulcans, but the station itself closed to military flying in 1947 although it was used now and again by civil aircraft after the IoM government bought it in 1964.
My list was just the RAF aerodromes and didn't include fine FAA stations such as Ford etc!
My list was just the RAF aerodromes and didn't include fine FAA stations such as Ford etc!
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BEagle, you seem to have done a few years - what's your opinion of life in the Service at the moment. Would you still recommend to a son or daughter? I think a lot of these chaps are correct to say that morale is very low with little faith in command. I'm in my tenth year and will probably leave early at 12 years. I am apprehensious of civvie life but, short of being in the field in Afghanistan or Iraq, I don't see many more challenges in my flying career. I told my flight commander that I had no real idea of what I wanted to do next - an exchange tour is all that remotely interests me. That might sound harsh to a lot of chaps on here but I flew just short of 900 hrs on my first tour (the equivalent to 3 tours back in the day apparently), 2 tours over Iraq and every flag ex & euro equivalent you can shake a small stick at. To return to the front line means I do it all again - albeit teaching the younger guys which is exactly what I do now. I am disenchanted with the Service, especially at Command level, but am still happy to go to work at the moment - in 2 years time, I know that I won't be. I'm interested in your opinion if that's not too much trouble - thanks.
Op_Twenty, I left in 2003 when I saw no end to the deteriorating state we were in at the time.
But I wouldn't presume to give an opinion on the actual state of things today.
However, if I had the chance to join the RAF of 1968 again, I would. As I would the RAF of 1978 or 1988.
But not the RAF of 1994 or later.
But I wouldn't presume to give an opinion on the actual state of things today.
However, if I had the chance to join the RAF of 1968 again, I would. As I would the RAF of 1978 or 1988.
But not the RAF of 1994 or later.
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Im surprised that it is just 50%. Surely we all consider our options on a regular basis. I regularly consider my options and so far have alwasy thought that this is too much fun than working for a living. The minute the fun stops then I'm off.
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When I did my twelve month unaccompanied tour mail was quite important, no 'phones, no fax, no internet etc. this was the 'sixties. You must be quite young.
I'm sure the supply of parchment and quill was important at some time, but it's of little interest to today's deployers
As for being at sea, could it be the frequent deployments and longer periods away that are the real problem ? If we gave you mail everyday, I assume people would be happy to stay at sea indefinitely then, seeing as that's the second most important thing apparently ?
This is when 99.9% of those serving get screwed, when one big wig listens to some idiot that quotes "mail" as the second most important issue, and then all the money gets spent on getting the mail there 1 day earlier, by which time you've spoken to the missus and kids who've told you everything in the letter anyway.
Blueys ? It's now e-blueys. You must be too old and out of touch to know about them
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If you like it old school, then the Bluey system is still there.
You can't feel the warm touch of good woman on a webcam either, but it's a damn sight better than the alternatives. It's all about making the best of being detached form the home.
I'd rather a webcam, internet terminal and some phones in theatre than make mail runs the "second" most important thing to morale and I think thatmost would agree
You can't feel the warm touch of good woman on a webcam either, but it's a damn sight better than the alternatives. It's all about making the best of being detached form the home.
I'd rather a webcam, internet terminal and some phones in theatre than make mail runs the "second" most important thing to morale and I think thatmost would agree
