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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 27th Nov 2011, 23:01
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Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone has managed to get through the pilot selection process without having any previous piloting experience?

I just got through my Assessment Day and am now waiting to get the call up for the pilot screening course in Tamworth. I have been in a flight simulator, been a passenger on an aerobatic flight and done a lot of traveling around the world, but thats as far as my flying experience goes. Does anyone know if this will go against me?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 00:03
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Jack,
On the contrary, it makes it easier in some ways as you don't have to 'unlearn' anything. Still have to work your b#tt off learning workcycles etc Seen quite a few with even less experience do quite well.


Good luck!
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 07:17
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An article from '08:

WGCDR Smith: "A good majority of our FSP students come to us with less than five hours total flying time. While we prefer them to have done some flying so that we can be sure this is what they want to do, sometimes having more experience can impact them, but we keep an open mind".


http://www.pilotaptitude.com/files/B...g%20School.pdf, p. 49

Having read that though, the majority of guys I know who scored extremely well (stanine 8-9) had between 10 and 20 hours behind the controls. Read in to that what you will!
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Old 13th Dec 2011, 21:05
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Hi Guys,
I got back from flight screening a few weeks ago and had a blast! I've just got some questions on stuff that was posted here lately:

Would someone please outline a few more details about this modified OTS program for pilots? Is it currently happening and will it continue to happen into next year? I had expected a 17 week OTS course then onto BFTS but this may no longer be the case?

Cheers.

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Old 13th Dec 2011, 23:41
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any tips for getting fast jet potential???
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Old 14th Dec 2011, 03:54
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Yes, 2FTS is where it all gets decided.

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Old 14th Dec 2011, 03:59
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jnicholas

Mate they generally only screen fast jet potential at 2FTS, but in your case they made an exception. They could not believe their eyes when they came across you, and had no other choice but to score you as "as high as it gets"....

Get over yourself mate, you're not even in yet!
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Old 14th Dec 2011, 04:04
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thx for that info guys, i know it isn't every day that ADFA candidates get changed to DEO but plz understand I am just trying to tell my little story of my application process. I give myself no better or worse shot than anyone else who has applied for this year or any other.

I would still appreciate some info on this modified OTS and BFTS program if any of you guys on the inside could spare a moment of your time.

Cheers guys
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Old 14th Dec 2011, 04:08
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Edit: I posted about the 6 week OTS course not long ago.

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Old 14th Dec 2011, 04:10
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look guys i get the point, thx for the mockery and personal attacks. I don't want to be seen as a ******** because i'm really not, this whole thing has just swept me off my feet since getting back a few weeks ago.

Just want some info on the OTS

EDIT: Mudrat, just read your post on the previous page - can't believe i didn't see it before! Did you go through the modified course path?

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Old 14th Dec 2011, 05:36
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thx for the mockery and personal attacks
Standard for this place mate, dont let it get to you. Well done and best of luck!
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Old 14th Dec 2011, 08:39
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Hi guys,

In celebration I have had a few drinks so sorry in advance for any sloppy grammar or spelling!

Thanks for all the help on this forum! It has helped me a lot in getting through the application process for becoming a pilot in the ADF.

I applied for the pilot position again this year in March - 5 years after I last applied when I was in grade 12 (I got knocked back for low school marks and life experience). I went to flight screening around July this year and recieved a phone call 1 month ago from the ADF letting me know that my documents would be sent down to Canberra for the RAAF and that I would recieve a phone call soon. I finally recieved that call today with an offer for DE pilot for the RAAF for the middle of February . Just thought I'd let you guys know for those of you waiting for the call.

Also FYI I went to flight screening with around 130 hrs of gliding and 30 hrs of powere flying. I highly recommend gliding for potential FS candidates and I believe that 5-15 hours of flying would be great a number to go to flight screening with, however that is my opinion.

If anyone else going in at the same time feel free to contact me!

Good luck to the rest of you going through this process.

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Old 14th Dec 2011, 09:46
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yeah they gave me the DEO option so i've transferred to that pool now, I never had an offer from either entry avenue. But this might be BS like the "fast jet" thing too (hope not), but the board and admin guys said they wouldn't have given me the option if they didn't think I would get on course. Could just be more crap though, fingers crossed and i guess we'll see if a letter comes in the next few weeks or not!
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Old 16th Dec 2011, 07:54
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How bad can the pass rate be if they are breaking up OTS to save some coin.

Nicholas, don't let the BFTS kiddies get you down. They prob wasted 3 years at adfa.
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 03:12
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I've just recently applied for a position as a SSO Pilot for the Australian Army and studying up so I can make sure I score well on my aptitude test. So I've been reading on and on about people talking about some experience is better then none, but in my case - I've had alot of flight experience just never flown the planes myself.

In my family there is about 6 pilots (Pop, Aunty, Mum, Step Dad + 2 first Cousins) so I have been in the air for countless hours and know that flying is something I have always wanted to pursue. My question is, if I pass my aptitude test, should I still look at getting some hours up in a glider or other aircraft before the FSP?
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 20:43
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Dru,

I would suggest that you should have some"flying expereince". Getting past the aptitude test is only the first step. You have to be selected to get a position on FSP.You are a 25 y.o with what appears to be no logged hours, with numerous relatives that are pilots. How do you think this looks for motivation? Getting hours after doing the RC stuff is like putting on a condom after the act.
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 21:59
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Having a few hours under your belt before FSP means you can focus on the flying having gotten over the initial "wow" moments of your first few flights (in your own time) & get's you used to the sight & sounds plus hearing ATC comms in your headset. Gives you some confidence.

If funds & time allow, I'd recommend trying to get at least to your 1st solo.

If not, spend some of your prep time at least learning the phonetic alphabet.

Good luck.
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 22:37
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Dru,

I went to flight screening about 5 months ago and my recommendation would be to do about 5-12 hours of flying with the majority of those hours being in a glider. I recommend that you start out gliding and then around 3-4 hours in an aerobatic plane.

Gliding helped me out ALOT at flight screening as you get a good feel for rudder and aileron co-ordination. Definately get some hands on flying under your belt before you go, however a few guys on my flight screening course had 0 hours and were recommended.

Hope that helps and good luck,
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 23:03
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unfortunately due to personal reason i was unable to afford flights over the last few years. I'm hoping that the knowledge i will show them will be a sign of motivation. If i can, i'll even try and fit in a logged hour between now and the aptitude test.

I will take the time to learn the phonetic alphabet. Thanks.
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Old 21st Dec 2011, 09:04
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BFTS Documentary

Guys, a few years ago I saw a documentary of BFTS at Tamworth. It followed a group of prospective candidates as they went through the flying and officer board. I am pretty sure it was on the ABC. Does anyone remember this and perhaps point me to where I can watch it again? Cheers
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