Afghan airbridge trial
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New FSI System
Luckily, it's just been delayed another month - apparently the correct paperwork was not ready!
The way it's seen by most my Sqn, with the new system you may as well not bother with an FSI and use a credit card for your spending - at least that way you get the benefits offered by most cards (airmiles etc) without needing to duplicate paperwork in the FSI and then on JPA.
Another JPA-induced increase in admin for the individual
The way it's seen by most my Sqn, with the new system you may as well not bother with an FSI and use a credit card for your spending - at least that way you get the benefits offered by most cards (airmiles etc) without needing to duplicate paperwork in the FSI and then on JPA.
Another JPA-induced increase in admin for the individual
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Must be nice to fly a route task that requires an FSI!
My sqn have realised over the last 5 years that you don't need an FSI for 7 months a year in-theatre.
Perhaps the AT fleet just needs to realise that we are the only people still getting 'rates' (if thats what you can call the new allowances
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The rest of the Armed Forces put everything through JPA - getting an advance and claiming on your return isn't too much of a hardship is it?
Perhaps if you didn't stay downtown in Muscat when there is a perfectly acceptable RAF DOB then you wouldn't need an FSI at all
Good luck with the trial - see you all very soon (again)
My sqn have realised over the last 5 years that you don't need an FSI for 7 months a year in-theatre.
Perhaps the AT fleet just needs to realise that we are the only people still getting 'rates' (if thats what you can call the new allowances
)The rest of the Armed Forces put everything through JPA - getting an advance and claiming on your return isn't too much of a hardship is it?
Perhaps if you didn't stay downtown in Muscat when there is a perfectly acceptable RAF DOB then you wouldn't need an FSI at all
Good luck with the trial - see you all very soon (again)
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"The rest of the Armed Forces put everything through JPA - getting an advance and claiming on your return isn't too much of a hardship is it?"
When you spend over six months a year away, it is a right royal pain yes! I'd rather not spend my limited time at home standing in a queue at allowances, or sat in front of a PC screen thanks.
If the system was user friendly and fast it might not be such a problem, but it isn't is it?
Anyway, back on thread, is the trial making things better for the punters / freight loads?
When you spend over six months a year away, it is a right royal pain yes! I'd rather not spend my limited time at home standing in a queue at allowances, or sat in front of a PC screen thanks.
If the system was user friendly and fast it might not be such a problem, but it isn't is it?
Anyway, back on thread, is the trial making things better for the punters / freight loads?
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With a little bit of luck, the trial might go some way to stopping or alleviating the 'Brize experience'
Anything to put our Service in a better light as seen by other Arms will be welcome.
Anything to put our Service in a better light as seen by other Arms will be welcome.
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Just erased my long-winded post that I'd written. Decided restraint is the best course.
I would suggest Truckkie that life is not as bad as you think it is, and one man's misfortune is another's good deal. What goes around comes around, except when you moan about it constantly, and then it doesn't come round at all.
Spoke to an Army guy last week at a DOB who'd just spent 15 mths in Baghdad and was makinh his way home minus a few friends. Spoke for 20 mins or so and didn't hear him bitch once during our chat, despite him having a much better case than you to do so. If he heard the child-like bickering from those who claim to be military personnel in the throws of combat operations, I think he'd hang his head in despair.
No matter how many operational dets I do,how many cans I'm allowed at the DOB, how much my rates get cut down route, how many F540's or aircraft visits I get given to do, how many times I get stuck away, I thank my lucky stars that the job I do is, in the grand scheme of things, very cushy.
It's all about perspective.....
I would suggest Truckkie that life is not as bad as you think it is, and one man's misfortune is another's good deal. What goes around comes around, except when you moan about it constantly, and then it doesn't come round at all.
Spoke to an Army guy last week at a DOB who'd just spent 15 mths in Baghdad and was makinh his way home minus a few friends. Spoke for 20 mins or so and didn't hear him bitch once during our chat, despite him having a much better case than you to do so. If he heard the child-like bickering from those who claim to be military personnel in the throws of combat operations, I think he'd hang his head in despair.
No matter how many operational dets I do,how many cans I'm allowed at the DOB, how much my rates get cut down route, how many F540's or aircraft visits I get given to do, how many times I get stuck away, I thank my lucky stars that the job I do is, in the grand scheme of things, very cushy.
It's all about perspective.....
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I flew out of Herrick 10/11 of this month & it was a nightmare. 27 hours in total with 12 hours on the tri* before getting off at the first planned stop!
Despite the crap trip, I have to say that the crews worked their bollox off to get us home (2 urgent casevacs onboard) and they impressed me immensely... shame about the airframe!
The casevacs were on their way home on a C17 with a superb team of medics, which was diverted quick time in order to minimise delay & as we watched them fly off, another Tri* appeared to take the R&R guys home (priority). I was not gutted at all, honest...
Original jet was fixed & the rest of us flew home with a row of seats each. We routed via Cyprus & the delay there was less that 2 hours. No issues with it at all. We beat the R&R guys home too, quite a nice feeling after the banter they threw at us as the walked out to the jet!
If this airbridge works, it will shorten the rip by 2 weeks later this year. If the trial fails, it will be at no fault of the aircrew & groundcrew.
216 Sqn,
thanks for the massive effort guys.
Despite the crap trip, I have to say that the crews worked their bollox off to get us home (2 urgent casevacs onboard) and they impressed me immensely... shame about the airframe!
The casevacs were on their way home on a C17 with a superb team of medics, which was diverted quick time in order to minimise delay & as we watched them fly off, another Tri* appeared to take the R&R guys home (priority). I was not gutted at all, honest...
Original jet was fixed & the rest of us flew home with a row of seats each. We routed via Cyprus & the delay there was less that 2 hours. No issues with it at all. We beat the R&R guys home too, quite a nice feeling after the banter they threw at us as the walked out to the jet!
If this airbridge works, it will shorten the rip by 2 weeks later this year. If the trial fails, it will be at no fault of the aircrew & groundcrew.
216 Sqn,
thanks for the massive effort guys.
Thanks, you'd have been home even quicker if we'd not had to wait for an ATC slot at AKT, the airspace is really busy in the summer hols so there's nothing we can do about that I'm afraid. It was quite amusing to beat the 'rescue' jet back to BZZ by 5 mins, London ATC said they'd never seen a Tri* move so fast across their screens! 
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The above simply proves the fact that when it goes well it goes extremely well and when it does not it's not for the lack of trying ...............anywhere in the ever diminishing AT world 
...............anywhere in the ever diminishing AT world
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SpecAircrew,
A few of us did giggle as the captain announced the delay, with an underlying tone in his (your?) voice, ' Greek are making us wait...The .'
Thank god for Family Guy on the PSP...life saver!
A few of us did giggle as the captain announced the delay, with an underlying tone in his (your?) voice, '
Greek are making us wait...The .'Thank god for Family Guy on the PSP...life saver!
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I have heard rumblings that the good old brize boys are no longer entitled to hotel accomodation in Muscat Seeb hence the need to find another comfortable beach to sit on in a sunny climate!
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"Nice to see the Vickers Funbus trailing smoke across families day yesterday. No, I mean it; it really was."
What the hell has that got to do with the airbridge?
What the hell has that got to do with the airbridge?
Iskco, you're talking out of your backside (fx glances around Hotel room), there's little time for sunbathing when you arrive at 0400 and leave at 0200, in fact all you want to do is sleep! Something that is in short supply during my regular 3 months of the year at the 'Let's pretend were operational' NFU up the road. The RAF could save a fortune by bulldozing the place and sending all the whingeing blunties somewhere that not reversing your car into a parking slot isn't a hanging offence!!!!!!
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Come on gents you cant expect Brize Norton to be correct every time , they are human like us all , they just cant handle the up tempo operations that are being asked thats why the tristars have been taken off the DWR list . Failure to provide i think our jengo called it