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Harrier Down in Rutland - Pilot OK

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Old 17th Jun 2008, 16:35
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Calm down everybody.

Might have been the almost typical 'Harrier' engine fail. Based on position, looks to me like downwind. So, either joining the Cct after games, or after take off?

Doesn't really matter, the guy is fine, and planted his beast somewhere sensible.

By the grace of God we ALL go.........

Regards, and keep safe,

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Old 17th Jun 2008, 16:58
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Calm down, you expect us to calm down? This is important stuff. Why was the aircraft downwind? Is there a link between being downwind and "typical Harrier engine failure(s)"? Do I live in a HDIZ (Harrier Downwind Impact Zone)? We are a democratic society which preserves the right to speculate and worry.
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 17:13
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Quite right, L123 - we deserve to know. Ignore 'Advo'.

It looks as if the bona mates really have become 'bomber pilots' since my day - look at the size of 'downwind'
Originally Posted by Il Duce
So it crashed just outside Ashwell, which is about 3 miles WEST of Cottesmore...... and it came down 1 and a half miles NORTH EAST of Cottesmore............and (according to another "news" source) just outside Stamford.
- whatever happened to proper circuits?
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 17:39
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Mortared a/c was 57 or 58 i think but definately not 37A.

Jet had flames exiting the hot nozzles and fleet currently grounded awaiting pol checks
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BOAC - "proper" circuits not flown so as to avoid overflying local villages, - a policy completely vindicated by yesterdays events.
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 18:54
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Roger, SS. There was a teeny weeny bit of 'TIC' there.
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 18:57
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Don't know what all the fuss is about. We used to lose one almost every month in the 1980s in RAFG and no-one batted an eyelid, provided the pilot popped out safely. Most of 'em were caused by birds headbutting fan blades.
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 19:18
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My GOD!

Don't the tax paying public have a right to know that these DEATH TRAPS are flying around on ONLY ONE ENGINE!.

I assume the other is in refit somewhere or tagged as war stock fit only!

Could've saved some time by crashing into the prison, lets face it that's where all the civvies would have us if they could after crashing their hard earned social security money.

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Old 17th Jun 2008, 19:23
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At least this one didn't inconvenience the traffic. The locals around Kidlington were much more miffed!

Glad the pilot is ok, we can always replace aircraft.

PS - Quick translation:
The Force Commander = CO Cottesmore
The Force Engineer = OC Forward/Oc Eng Wing
The Deputy Force Commander = OC Ops Cottesmore

After the 1(F) Sqn Article everythings going Jedi!!
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 20:24
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By the grace of God we ALL go.........
Ummm, so how does this apply to me? I haven't seen a Harrier or been near Cottesmore for years! But I did have a nearly very nasty moment with my Teasmade yesterday morning at 2ft 6ins ABFL (above bedroom floor level). Close or what!
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 20:54
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Why is everybody worried about flames from the nozzles? After all, I'm sure they're just testing out the new afterburner mod

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Old 17th Jun 2008, 21:32
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Zoom - was that your Gobling Teasmaid, perchance?
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 00:14
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I have been informed that it was a head gasket failure? ... I thought they sorted these ages ago?
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 06:39
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not sure what high key is for the harrier, but unless he flies circuits at FL150, a engine failure downwind is going to be, ah, let's say.....

problematic

recall a donkey failure in Gnat near north weald a couple of years ago (ok, so it wasn't failure.......more of a fuel problem), and a certain "kitten" doing a superb job of parking it in a field straight on

there was plenty of debate as to why he didn't pull the handle
he would have been in the press for days afterwards if he had, and what with the stories of missing the school and M11, a positive hero!

do we know from what squadron the harrier was from? was it RAF or Navy?
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 07:39
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Oli,

Have a look in the Fleet Air Arm museum in Yeovilton .....


Sitting on a stand, next to Concorde is ........... an afterburning Pegasus!!!!

Apparently, the fuel burn was so horrendous that it gave even less than the current 20 mins on CAP if you gave the audacity to carry weapons, so was scrapped.

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Old 18th Jun 2008, 07:51
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D Sqn - all the reports seem to suggest it was a Navy mate. The Harriers are shuffled around fairly frequently (and rotated through Afg, JUMP and deep maintenance every 720 hrs) so an airframe does not stay with a squadron for very long in most cases.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 08:09
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Sitting on a stand, next to Concorde is ........... an afterburning Pegasus!!!!
Surely that would be plenum chamber burning?
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 11:02
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W2P, wow! You learn something new everyday I'll have a look when i go (It's on the ever increasing list of places)

ORAC, it is indeed Plenum Chamber Burning, and heres the wiki aritcle on the prototype fitted with the engine.

Cheers, Oli
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 11:30
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The Harrier has a much too smaller wing to enable it to glide properly after an engine failure. I would hope that a replacement type will be procured by removing the wing, engine (original far to unreliable!) and avionics. The original fuselage will be kept. A new wing, naturaly designed for engine out ops, will be fitted along with a new donk or two and new avionics designed by nintendo. The whole project will be of course handled by British Wasteofspace. We should have the new a/c with us in a decade or two and within cost allocated to the new project (a spokesman from BAE/MOD said). The new a/c will be multi role able to find and sink subs and ships, perform ground attack and loiter for 10 hrs to enable the AEW systems to provide invaluble information as well as supply a link for SKY TV news and BFBS. A ballistic recovery system will also be fitted to enable the whole shebang to be recovered in the very unlikely event that any of the new systems fail.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 13:12
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OK, fair point, start worrying! I just hope they don't start doing 'mini ccts' again, otherwise everyone in the area will get their own Harrier in their gardens!

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