Beached Dolphins
Originally Posted by ZH875
Did they find any traces of Illegal Immigrants or bogus Asylum seekers living inside the dolphins?
To quote the County's second motto; "Bloody Emmetts"
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Logic:
Dolphins use sonar to navigate
Sonar has been operating near previous strandings therefore sonar was to blame
The Navy use sonar therefore the Navy is to blame.
As was said earlier Dolphins are often atttacted to sonar, whether it be warships, yachts or fishing boats. Indeed they are also attracted to humans and boats generally.
So why has no journalist considered the distinct possibility that dolphins were attracted to the fish-finding sonar of a fisghing boat (they aren't stupid you know). Said boat forgot to turn off the sonar when it quit for home. As a result the doplhins continued to follow until...
That is far more plausible than the Navy causing it but of course doesn't fit with the prejudices of certain lobby groups or sloppy journalism. p.s. I am not suggesting that my explanation is definitely correct, just that it is more plausible than blame the RN
Dolphins use sonar to navigate
Sonar has been operating near previous strandings therefore sonar was to blame
The Navy use sonar therefore the Navy is to blame.
As was said earlier Dolphins are often atttacted to sonar, whether it be warships, yachts or fishing boats. Indeed they are also attracted to humans and boats generally.
So why has no journalist considered the distinct possibility that dolphins were attracted to the fish-finding sonar of a fisghing boat (they aren't stupid you know). Said boat forgot to turn off the sonar when it quit for home. As a result the doplhins continued to follow until...
That is far more plausible than the Navy causing it but of course doesn't fit with the prejudices of certain lobby groups or sloppy journalism. p.s. I am not suggesting that my explanation is definitely correct, just that it is more plausible than blame the RN
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Oi D'air, shush!
It's the trawlers and the killer whales! Everyone knows that Cornwall and Wales have a mutual hatred. Something to do with an old Celtic language
It's the trawlers and the killer whales! Everyone knows that Cornwall and Wales have a mutual hatred. Something to do with an old Celtic language
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I have no real, proven clues as to Sonar V Dolphins; but on several times in the past, I've seen Dolphins in the near distance, off Jersey and Plymouth for a start.
On each occasion when I turned on the depth sounder ( not Sonar ) the animals homed straight in on my boat to formate within 2-3' - have photo's to prove it...
So I'd go along with the theory that Sonar / undersea systems might be the cause, though there are probably other environmental factors as well.
On each occasion when I turned on the depth sounder ( not Sonar ) the animals homed straight in on my boat to formate within 2-3' - have photo's to prove it...
So I'd go along with the theory that Sonar / undersea systems might be the cause, though there are probably other environmental factors as well.
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NB: Slam hand in door..........
Double Zero,
Thats my point. If the RN droggies (who were twelve miles out to sea) were supposedly the ones spooking the ex-dolphins with piddly side-scanning sonar, the silly bloody things wouldn't be stuck in someone's freezer, they'd be following HMS ECHOSOUNDER around clicking "where's my tea you b*stards". Sonar ATTRACTS dolphins, it doesn't scare them. Unless its the mahoosively powerful LF one that the Yanks sometimes turn on in California.......result, dead whales in Japan. None of ours have anywhere near the power, its hard enough getting your sodding iron to warm up on board, let alone power some under-water laser deathray weapon.
Thats my point. If the RN droggies (who were twelve miles out to sea) were supposedly the ones spooking the ex-dolphins with piddly side-scanning sonar, the silly bloody things wouldn't be stuck in someone's freezer, they'd be following HMS ECHOSOUNDER around clicking "where's my tea you b*stards". Sonar ATTRACTS dolphins, it doesn't scare them. Unless its the mahoosively powerful LF one that the Yanks sometimes turn on in California.......result, dead whales in Japan. None of ours have anywhere near the power, its hard enough getting your sodding iron to warm up on board, let alone power some under-water laser deathray weapon.
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I'm sure the fishermen will be after compensation; it's become the easiest way to 'earn' money in the U.K, see the various ad's for " ambulance chasing lawyers direct ".
What sort of fisherman picks up cockles from a beach ?
When I was on my Yachtmaster Offshore course ( funded by BAe probably just to shut me up ) we had a fisherman type with us doing ' Coastal Skipper' - we had to use force to prevent him throwing cans, plastic etc overboard - on another occasion I unfortunately sailed in the wake of a fishing boat around Portland Bill, with dozens of gulls taken out by shotgun !
It's interesting that UK fishing boats are generally very badly maintained, while those in 'poorer' countries are treated as one of the family...
What sort of fisherman picks up cockles from a beach ?
When I was on my Yachtmaster Offshore course ( funded by BAe probably just to shut me up ) we had a fisherman type with us doing ' Coastal Skipper' - we had to use force to prevent him throwing cans, plastic etc overboard - on another occasion I unfortunately sailed in the wake of a fishing boat around Portland Bill, with dozens of gulls taken out by shotgun !
It's interesting that UK fishing boats are generally very badly maintained, while those in 'poorer' countries are treated as one of the family...
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If the RN droggies (who were twelve miles out to sea) were supposedly the ones spooking the ex-dolphins with piddly side-scanning sonar, the silly bloody things wouldn't be stuck in someone's freezer, they'd be following HMS ECHOSOUNDER around clicking "where's my tea you b*stards". Sonar ATTRACTS dolphins, it doesn't scare them.
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" If a depth sounder isn't Sonar what is it ? " - well there are various types of sounder, some like mine just work straight down like a Radalt / WW2 Asdic, while fishfinders, forward looking Sonar ( FLS, to try to avoid steering into shallows or cliffs ) and true SONAR will provide a wide scan undersea charting capability.
BTW my feeble little depth sounder was once good enough to detect a sub' trying to hide underneath us in a NATO exercise - we were motoring in a calm, mid English Channel, the ships and helo's had detected him alright and dropped smoke floats, but were kind enough not to use depth charges or torpedos ! I cottoned on, and our depth reading went from 60 fathoms ( old money ) to 20 as the crafty git tried to hide under our diesel sound...
I'd rather have Dolphins in company any day - though I did once have a girlfriend who was in danger of being chased by Japanese fishermen.
BTW my feeble little depth sounder was once good enough to detect a sub' trying to hide underneath us in a NATO exercise - we were motoring in a calm, mid English Channel, the ships and helo's had detected him alright and dropped smoke floats, but were kind enough not to use depth charges or torpedos ! I cottoned on, and our depth reading went from 60 fathoms ( old money ) to 20 as the crafty git tried to hide under our diesel sound...
I'd rather have Dolphins in company any day - though I did once have a girlfriend who was in danger of being chased by Japanese fishermen.
