AAR Footage
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AAR Footage
Some nice AAR footage on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNtmNkan4wY
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srsMC...eature=related
and some when it goes wrong. EEK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOaH...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNtmNkan4wY
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srsMC...eature=related
and some when it goes wrong. EEK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOaH...eature=related
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Those of us who joined the RAF in the early/mid 80's would have seen the precursor to the second video at our local CIO. ISTR it involved VC10s, Victors, Lightnings, Buccs, Jags, Harrier GR3s and exactly the same music.
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Those of us who joined the RAF in the early/mid 80's would have seen the precursor to the second video at our local CIO.
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Gents,
Respect for those Hornet guys.
Very smooth and controlled contacts in what is, without doubt (in my opinion) the most difficult of tanking. ie "Donkey's Dick", from a KC135.
Actually, probably the most challenging thing you can ever do in a Tornado! (Not withstanding crashing it
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Respect for those Hornet guys.
Very smooth and controlled contacts in what is, without doubt (in my opinion) the most difficult of tanking. ie "Donkey's Dick", from a KC135.Actually, probably the most challenging thing you can ever do in a Tornado! (Not withstanding crashing it
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Interesting footage.
Most of the 'alarming' shots seem to involve the C-160 tanker and cowboy receivers. Although the last video shows what looks like poor hose tension control - presumably from some ancient Sargent Fletcher piece of sh...., piece of kit. As was also to be seen in another yoof-tube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGMlriUTab4 involving an AMX...
Because the refuelling operator failed to notice errant hose behaviour and stop the receiver, a contact was made against a hose whose tension control system had failed. Hence the hose whip and loss of drogue... The AMX ended up with a cracked canopy and a myriad of skin punctures from the 15m of steel wire still attached to the drogue.
In 20 years of AAR I only refused 1 receiver and almost another. The 'almost' was a Luftwaffe Tornado ECR which developed a severe roll divergence - we later established it was the squadron boss who had been 'too busy' to attend the briefing..
The one I did refuse was a FAF Mirage over Chateauroux, who had no idea what the signal lights meant...
AAR needs to be formal as it is the only routinely flown formation exercise which doesn't require a pre-flight formation brief. So everyone must stick to the rules - unlike that tw.at rolling inverted off the Transall.
The world's only 21st century probe and drogue tanker in service, the A310MRTT, has a very stable drogue system thanks to extensive aerodynamic improvements developed by Elbeflugzeugwerke during the early flight test campaign. Unlike that ridiculously nutating C-160 hose.....
As for the CH-53? Yes, a PIO after a 'basket chase'. Fortunately the Spams make those aircraft out of strong stuff, so he didn't lose a blade and die.
Most of the 'alarming' shots seem to involve the C-160 tanker and cowboy receivers. Although the last video shows what looks like poor hose tension control - presumably from some ancient Sargent Fletcher piece of sh...., piece of kit. As was also to be seen in another yoof-tube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGMlriUTab4 involving an AMX...
Because the refuelling operator failed to notice errant hose behaviour and stop the receiver, a contact was made against a hose whose tension control system had failed. Hence the hose whip and loss of drogue... The AMX ended up with a cracked canopy and a myriad of skin punctures from the 15m of steel wire still attached to the drogue.
In 20 years of AAR I only refused 1 receiver and almost another. The 'almost' was a Luftwaffe Tornado ECR which developed a severe roll divergence - we later established it was the squadron boss who had been 'too busy' to attend the briefing..
The one I did refuse was a FAF Mirage over Chateauroux, who had no idea what the signal lights meant...AAR needs to be formal as it is the only routinely flown formation exercise which doesn't require a pre-flight formation brief. So everyone must stick to the rules - unlike that tw.at rolling inverted off the Transall.
The world's only 21st century probe and drogue tanker in service, the A310MRTT, has a very stable drogue system thanks to extensive aerodynamic improvements developed by Elbeflugzeugwerke during the early flight test campaign. Unlike that ridiculously nutating C-160 hose.....
As for the CH-53? Yes, a PIO after a 'basket chase'. Fortunately the Spams make those aircraft out of strong stuff, so he didn't lose a blade and die.
Oi, MrB, are you casting nasturtiums at my supercharged Teutonic tourer? Although I know little of hairdressers, I'd rather drive a reliable 354 bhp Tcherman Wunderwagen than some product of the British boilermaking industry made largely of wood with various flapping canvas bits - and which is as likely as not to expire in a cloud of steam after depositing pieces of oily pig iron on the Queen's highway when required to attempt a journey longer than down to whichever nearby pub still serves 'real ale' with bits of wood floating in it!
And it doesn't have pink seats. Not at all - they're 'Designo Bordeaux' according to Mercedes
!
Anyway, as I'm sure you know, this is an A310MRTT:
And it doesn't have pink seats. Not at all - they're 'Designo Bordeaux' according to Mercedes
!Anyway, as I'm sure you know, this is an A310MRTT:
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The first two times in Ch-53Es it was the same pilot. First time he was under instruction as a co-pilot. The second time he had just become an instructor in helo A/R and was demonstrating.
I’ve seen the photos of one probe. The rotors missed the hose but chopped off the probe which was brought back by the KC-130.
S/F, FOG
I’ve seen the photos of one probe. The rotors missed the hose but chopped off the probe which was brought back by the KC-130.
S/F, FOG
