Another day, another loony Students Union
Another day, another loony Students Union
The University of Manchester Student's Union is holding a general meeting next wednesday (30/04/08) and following the recent ban at UCL one of the proposed motions is to ban the military from all campus areas. If the motion is passed it will last for three years and this is the one chance to oppose it.
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/pdf..._A_30.4.08.pdf
There is a group on facebook already set up, hoping to get all those in the UAS, UOTC and URNU who are eligible to vote to the Union on wednesday.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12245047631
Also worth noting are the other motions proposed for the AGM, particularly #6&7
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/rep...ownloads.shtml
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/pdf..._A_30.4.08.pdf
There is a group on facebook already set up, hoping to get all those in the UAS, UOTC and URNU who are eligible to vote to the Union on wednesday.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12245047631
Also worth noting are the other motions proposed for the AGM, particularly #6&7
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/rep...ownloads.shtml
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Also worth noting are the other motions proposed for the AGM, particularly #6&7
Words fail me....,
if these are the future captains of industry/commerce or even lawers.., doctors... or other professionals ..., then God help us all....
GK
if these are the future captains of industry/commerce or even lawers.., doctors... or other professionals ..., then God help us all....
GK
Given that its Manchester University, perhaps we could go for Peterloo II.
I'm sure I can dig out my old sabre and borrow a nag from the stables down the road.
I'm sure I can dig out my old sabre and borrow a nag from the stables down the road.
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Genghis - don't worry, the future captains of industry are getting on with their studies rather than wasting their time worrying about the military on campuses and hanging around in student bars pontificating about Tibet and other subjects of which they know very little.
There are sane and hard-working students out there...
There are sane and hard-working students out there...
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The motion is actually very funny and I would recommend reading it to the end. It's delusional rubbish, same sort of entertainment that we got from 'Comical Ali' (Iraqi Information Minister) during the Iraq invasion.
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if these are the future captains of industry/commerce or even lawers.., doctors... or other professionals ..., then God help us all....
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Point number three from the motion detail amused me some what:
attack. Including occupations, demonstrations, teach-ins and direct action.
Good luck with that chaps.
In the event of any attack on Iran, to mobilise students to take whatever action is necessary to halt the
attack. Including occupations, demonstrations, teach-ins and direct action.
Two small points - first, since both Afghanistan and Iraq (post invasion) are covered by UN Security Council Resolutions, do they intend to boycott the UN on the grounds that it has legitimized the occupations?
Second, they talk about banning 'the military of any country'. Does that mean that they will, contrary to the Human Rights Act, bar any serving personnel regular or TA (or other nations' equivalents) who happen to be undertaking education at the University from SU premises?
And for the OTC/UAS/UNRU types - how about an ammendment along the lines of:
11. In the event of the University of Manchester being affected by flood, other natural disaster, contagious disease or terrorist attack, the Students' Union will, in upholding its principles, refuse to accept any assistance from the armed services.
12.The same principles will be steadfastly upheld in the event of the SU premises catching fire during a firefighters' strike, in which event members will link arms in a human chain around the burning building and sing 'we shall overcome' while preventing firefighters from the armed forces from tackling the blaze.@
Second, they talk about banning 'the military of any country'. Does that mean that they will, contrary to the Human Rights Act, bar any serving personnel regular or TA (or other nations' equivalents) who happen to be undertaking education at the University from SU premises?
And for the OTC/UAS/UNRU types - how about an ammendment along the lines of:
11. In the event of the University of Manchester being affected by flood, other natural disaster, contagious disease or terrorist attack, the Students' Union will, in upholding its principles, refuse to accept any assistance from the armed services.
12.The same principles will be steadfastly upheld in the event of the SU premises catching fire during a firefighters' strike, in which event members will link arms in a human chain around the burning building and sing 'we shall overcome' while preventing firefighters from the armed forces from tackling the blaze.@
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All politicians are obviously recruited from the thieves, liars, murderers, bureaucrats, alcoholics, sexually perverse, druggie and bulimic members of society.
I'm puzzled why people expect students or society in general to be sympathetic towards the armed forces under the present circumstances. I am sympathetic, but being ex forces I'm bound to be.
Why would you expect sympathy for fighting illegal and immoral wars based on lies and the need for oil & gas reserves ?
Society won't see the benefit of securing the oil & gas, 'govern'ment will, with their 70%+ duty. The North Sea was once rich with oil and Irish Sea the same with gas, where's the benefits from that for the past 20 years compared to the rest of Europe, let alone US & A?
At least the student layabouts are standing up for what they believe in, be it right or wrong. Lefties do my nut in, but so do fascist tories and their BS and Neu labour and their lies.
As someone on here once said, "Love Many, Trust Few, and always paddle your own canoe"
**** the country, coz it ***** you. Just look after yourself, your mate and your family. All this patriotism & allegiance to the queen is BS, they couldn't give a **** about you, which is the reality that you need to face. Appreciate those that do care a little better. Job Jobbed
I'm puzzled why people expect students or society in general to be sympathetic towards the armed forces under the present circumstances. I am sympathetic, but being ex forces I'm bound to be.
Why would you expect sympathy for fighting illegal and immoral wars based on lies and the need for oil & gas reserves ?
Society won't see the benefit of securing the oil & gas, 'govern'ment will, with their 70%+ duty. The North Sea was once rich with oil and Irish Sea the same with gas, where's the benefits from that for the past 20 years compared to the rest of Europe, let alone US & A?
At least the student layabouts are standing up for what they believe in, be it right or wrong. Lefties do my nut in, but so do fascist tories and their BS and Neu labour and their lies.
As someone on here once said, "Love Many, Trust Few, and always paddle your own canoe"
**** the country, coz it ***** you. Just look after yourself, your mate and your family. All this patriotism & allegiance to the queen is BS, they couldn't give a **** about you, which is the reality that you need to face. Appreciate those that do care a little better. Job Jobbed
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Barnes Wallis Building
Well, with an SU in that frame of mind the Banrnes Wallis building & Cafe (part of Manchester Uni) should be due for a rename anytime now.
Any thoughts?
The Kabul Coffee House?
I'd put good money on a name change by the end of the year. I'm surprised it's actually lasted this long.
Any thoughts?
The Kabul Coffee House?
I'd put good money on a name change by the end of the year. I'm surprised it's actually lasted this long.
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Why would you expect sympathy for fighting illegal and immoral wars
You mean you can't?
Go and join the rest of the ill-informed gobsheens in the SU (mass) debating chamber then
I was under the notion that operations in both were currently UN sanctioned.
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I must have missed that declaration, refresh my memory which court of law declared Afgahnistan or Iraq as illegal
Stating lies for the reasons of going to war is illegal and immoral, whether a court says so or not. Just like burgling a house is illegal before you're caught.
The whole point is that the truth wasn't declared, and lies were.
If I want to join a SU debating club it'll be because I want to, not because some 'govern'ment apologist **** house tells me.