Help - Lets show this NIMBY what real aircraft noise is
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More Where I Live, Please
I'd like more of you to do the south bound Manchester flow arrow, please. All of you, that is, except Bob Viking, who I wouldn't trust flying within 5 miles of my house....
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He (Harrogate?) is a civilian journalist who has no say on the views of the Armed Forces and in particular the hard working boys and girls of the Support Helicopter squadrons.
We all have a "say"; isn't that the point of this (and other) threads? That we have the freedom to express our opinions?
Samuraimatt, in a single post you have said that Mr. Dignan's views are taken seriously and apologise for someone else's post yet still tell him (Mr. Dignan) to **** off? I'm afraid I can't see your post being any better or worse than the one you have just complained about
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Well I disagree with the photograph Harrogate has posted. Whilst I don't agree with Mr Dignans views, he is entitled to them and Harrogate is a journalist who is putting the RAF Puma force in a bad light by posting his photoshop adjusted effort.
I'm no journalist. I used to do some freelancing on various subjects related to my main job (somtimes civil aviation), but not military. I'm in marketing, dahling.
I'm entitled to my opinion. You can see it above. It's the picture of a helicopter with the flag. And I'm certainly not trying to speak on behalf of HM's Forces.
You should be ashamed for sucking up to eejits like him. If you do a bit of research on this chap, you'll see he's another bloody politician with an agenda. He's put himself in the firing line. You've chuckled at the political cartoons that lambast politicians in the papers before, so chuckle at my picture, God damn you!
That's an order.
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So... On the one hand, he complains about noise from us. On the other, it would appear he LOVES to join in riding his quiet, efficient motorbike around along with his friends - not creating any noise at all!
Idiot - Anyone got a Lat Long? I'll be sure to say hi when i'm next on my way through at 50', or maybe the field next to him would work really well as the drop point for a CAD!
Sure he'll appreciate 27,000 Kgs of downwash at the end of his garden!
IDIOT
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So... On the one hand, he complains about noise from us. On the other, it would appear he LOVES to join in riding his quiet, efficient motorbike around along with his friends - not creating any noise at all!
Idiot - Anyone got a Lat Long? I'll be sure to say hi when i'm next on my way through at 50', or maybe the field next to him would work really well as the drop point for a CAD!
Sure he'll appreciate 27,000 Kgs of downwash at the end of his garden!
IDIOT
M_W
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Well you haven't done very well with your latest effort and I am sure the Station Commander at Benson would agree
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Why is it that almost every thread on this website starts with perfectly reasonable people making perfectly reasonable observations and degenerates quickly into rude and uncalled for abuse.
Come on ppruners - get some manners.
Come on ppruners - get some manners.
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Would you say that this particular thread was ever reasonable? Judging by title, I'd say not. It's more of a light-hearted take on an issue where consensus will never be achieved.
I disagree with your assertion that 'almost every' thread on here degenerates into abuse. I find the vast majority of the threads in this forum to be thorough, well balanced and passionately argued. There's a varying degree of humour chucked into the fray, as there is in life.
I learn a lot on this forum, but I didn't expect to learn too much from this thread when I read the title. And to be honest, I don't feel my input's any more offensive than Mr Dignan's NIMBY attitude towards military training.
You can bet your arse this chap's a NOTE as well as a NIMBY. If he's not a NOTE, then he's a hypocrite. But being a NOTE and NIMBY is equally unreasonable. Either way, he's pretty naive or selfish. Or both.
I disagree with your assertion that 'almost every' thread on here degenerates into abuse. I find the vast majority of the threads in this forum to be thorough, well balanced and passionately argued. There's a varying degree of humour chucked into the fray, as there is in life.
I learn a lot on this forum, but I didn't expect to learn too much from this thread when I read the title. And to be honest, I don't feel my input's any more offensive than Mr Dignan's NIMBY attitude towards military training.
You can bet your arse this chap's a NOTE as well as a NIMBY. If he's not a NOTE, then he's a hypocrite. But being a NOTE and NIMBY is equally unreasonable. Either way, he's pretty naive or selfish. Or both.
Where was the uncalled for abuse then?
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XH 558. Yes. Dashed good idea.
We are not, per se, abusing Mr Dignan. What we are doing is standing up for aviation in general and the military side of things in particular.
The reason is simple. The military guys (present) have a tough job to do in Iraq & Afghanistan as well as other theatres in the world. They need to train for it. Whatever the merits, right & wrongs of these operations, the dact remains that our armed services are doing a job on our behalf, as a country, and we should support them in that task. this means keeping quiet about training.
The military guys (past) are owed a massive debt from all of us. They are the reason that we don't speak German today!!! Words cannot express the disdain I feel for Mr Dignan and his complete lack of understanding of the fact that without those guys winning us the freedom of the skies, there would be no freedom today. Those guys also had to train, but I can guarentee that had he complained about training noise in 1941 he would have gone to the tower.
The modern military pilot is upholding the traditions and freedom hard fought for and hard won.
So, Mr Dignan, the airfield was there long before you were even a glimmer in your fathers eye. We have freedom in this country. We also have an exceedingly good armed force in all 3 services. Please respect them and the job that they do and keep you small minded and quite petty opinions to yourself.
Thank You
PS, Still waiting for the co-ordinates.
We are not, per se, abusing Mr Dignan. What we are doing is standing up for aviation in general and the military side of things in particular.
The reason is simple. The military guys (present) have a tough job to do in Iraq & Afghanistan as well as other theatres in the world. They need to train for it. Whatever the merits, right & wrongs of these operations, the dact remains that our armed services are doing a job on our behalf, as a country, and we should support them in that task. this means keeping quiet about training.
The military guys (past) are owed a massive debt from all of us. They are the reason that we don't speak German today!!! Words cannot express the disdain I feel for Mr Dignan and his complete lack of understanding of the fact that without those guys winning us the freedom of the skies, there would be no freedom today. Those guys also had to train, but I can guarentee that had he complained about training noise in 1941 he would have gone to the tower.
The modern military pilot is upholding the traditions and freedom hard fought for and hard won.
So, Mr Dignan, the airfield was there long before you were even a glimmer in your fathers eye. We have freedom in this country. We also have an exceedingly good armed force in all 3 services. Please respect them and the job that they do and keep you small minded and quite petty opinions to yourself.
Thank You
PS, Still waiting for the co-ordinates.
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Whirls - the Chinooks only live at Odiham - <anorak> Benson is home to all Merlins, some Pumas, as well as the Thames Valley Air Ambulance BO105 and the Police EC135. </anorak>
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XH 558. Yes. Dashed good idea.
Why should some ungrateful and unappreciative idjit get the pleasure when there are many more non-nimbys who'd welcome the sight. And sound.Cheers
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PS- thanks Soprano; thought me memory was playing tricks on me in my dotage.
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Now then, whilst the mods were busy deleting my post I still disagree with the photo of a Puma with a flag beneath it telling a named member of the public to fcuk off. Now whilst they and Harrogate must think this is the best way to show the RAF and the Puma force in the best light, it isn't.
Harrogate is not a representative of RAF Benson and as such has no right to post such a photgraph. Whilst not on the same scale just think of all those photgraphs that came out of Iraq showing the Armed Forces in a bad light.
I expect better from you Harrogate. I am very dissapointed.
Harrogate is not a representative of RAF Benson and as such has no right to post such a photgraph. Whilst not on the same scale just think of all those photgraphs that came out of Iraq showing the Armed Forces in a bad light.
I expect better from you Harrogate. I am very dissapointed.
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Samuraimatt, are you still disappointed having revisited Harrogate's photograph? 
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Re Post 39 and Post 62, Forres Gazette. The Old Fat One, you are correct sir. One of the Community Councillors retired to Forrres from Kinloss in the early nineties after his 22 as a caterer in the Air Force? I seem to remember he qualified for a disability pension due to deafness, having worked in so many noisy kitchens and being subject to aircraft noise during his long and distinguished career in catering! Is that the one you are talking about with knowledge of the kipper fleet, or are there two of them. Any one else out there remember him?
Are the Yanks in practise for a visit to this blokes house?
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A39%3A34%3A573
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7306883.stm
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Harrogate - I Thank you Sir, for the picture, absolutely priceless.
I think it says what a lot of us are thinking and wish we'd thought of it first.
I can only hope that Mr Dignan has an unfortunate accident on his bike one day and he requires the resources of an Air Ambulance. Might make him appreciate helicopter a bit more.
For those who require the location is his abode. It is approx 5 miles ESE of Welshpool in a valley running in a NE/SW direction. There is a water feature named Marto Pool approx 1NM SW of the village. Village name of Brockton. But beware of the Choppers practiceing GH in the area.
To all who have posted on this topic I thank you for your comments.
Best Wishes: WASALOADIE
I think it says what a lot of us are thinking and wish we'd thought of it first.
I can only hope that Mr Dignan has an unfortunate accident on his bike one day and he requires the resources of an Air Ambulance. Might make him appreciate helicopter a bit more.
For those who require the location is his abode. It is approx 5 miles ESE of Welshpool in a valley running in a NE/SW direction. There is a water feature named Marto Pool approx 1NM SW of the village. Village name of Brockton. But beware of the Choppers practiceing GH in the area.
To all who have posted on this topic I thank you for your comments.
Best Wishes: WASALOADIE