Night night, Nighthawk
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Night night, Nighthawk
I find it hard to believe, but the USAF is retiring the F-117A:
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...s_retired.html
Fantastic jet.
Still, if it frees the budget for higher-priority spending?
Maybe there's a lesson here?
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...s_retired.html
Fantastic jet.
Still, if it frees the budget for higher-priority spending?
Maybe there's a lesson here?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Maybe they have worked out there are no potential target sets left at the moment. Maybe it will be obsolete before the next time it is needed.
Same logic for disposing of Sea Harrier and Jaguar and Lynx. Good theory if you can see a short time ahead.
Same logic for disposing of Sea Harrier and Jaguar and Lynx. Good theory if you can see a short time ahead.
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As the article states - it has been in service for 27 yrs
, So there is a strong argument its done its time, then again i got sentimental when the RAF retired the Jaguar early so can understand why some will mourn the retirement.
, So there is a strong argument its done its time, then again i got sentimental when the RAF retired the Jaguar early so can understand why some will mourn the retirement.
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Why keep a mini when you have a porsch in your garage ??????
Its hard to wonder what its replacement will look like, No doubt it has been
flying top secret sorties for some time now just like the Nighthawk did from area 51 (and it dosent exsist),lol, the american goverment denied the nighthawk exsisted for some time so I wonder how long the nighthawks replacement has been flying ??????. the only reason they admitted the nightawk exsisted was because it was old to them and they had better aircraft and technology in the pipeline.
I have heard it will be called the Aroura and the technology is going to be mind blowing ??? Might expain some of the strange lights seen around a few off the map bases.
Shame to se it go as it is a great machine, wonder if they will sell me one , lol
I bet the first pics would be worth a fourtune, lol
G.B
Its hard to wonder what its replacement will look like, No doubt it has been
flying top secret sorties for some time now just like the Nighthawk did from area 51 (and it dosent exsist),lol, the american goverment denied the nighthawk exsisted for some time so I wonder how long the nighthawks replacement has been flying ??????. the only reason they admitted the nightawk exsisted was because it was old to them and they had better aircraft and technology in the pipeline.
I have heard it will be called the Aroura and the technology is going to be mind blowing ??? Might expain some of the strange lights seen around a few off the map bases.
Shame to se it go as it is a great machine, wonder if they will sell me one , lol
I bet the first pics would be worth a fourtune, lol
G.B
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The replacement for the F-117 is indeed in service.
It is called the F-22.
Yes, the F-22 has a limited strike capability... but remember the F-117 was only capable of carrying 2 x 2,000 lb bombs (or 2 x 1,000 lb, etc.)... hardly a world-beating capability there.
The F-117 had its IR/laser target location/designation system... and it is also a 27+ year old one.
Note that, of 59 F-117 built, 7 crashed, 10 were retired in December 2006 and 27 since then. That meant that only one squadron (15 aircraft) is still in operation.
In contrast, 4 active USAF, one reserve USAF, and one ANG squadrons are operational with the F-22 (the reserve & ANG squadrons share aircraft & maintenance tasks with the active squadrons).
It is called the F-22.
Yes, the F-22 has a limited strike capability... but remember the F-117 was only capable of carrying 2 x 2,000 lb bombs (or 2 x 1,000 lb, etc.)... hardly a world-beating capability there.
The F-117 had its IR/laser target location/designation system... and it is also a 27+ year old one.
Note that, of 59 F-117 built, 7 crashed, 10 were retired in December 2006 and 27 since then. That meant that only one squadron (15 aircraft) is still in operation.
In contrast, 4 active USAF, one reserve USAF, and one ANG squadrons are operational with the F-22 (the reserve & ANG squadrons share aircraft & maintenance tasks with the active squadrons).
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ISTR that, post-Kosovo, it doesn't fly anywhere nowadays without dedicated ECM jamming cover, thus calling into question its unique selling point, ie its 'invisibility' to radar.
Great ac though - still looks amazingly futuristic, even given its advancing years.
Great ac though - still looks amazingly futuristic, even given its advancing years.
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Virtually all the fleet is going into secure storage, back in the barns at TTR. The main reason, I understand, is that there is not much else you can do with them.
The amount of work needed to de-coat/prepare them for public display is huge, and very expensive. The few that are on display were prepared by volunteers.
The amount of work needed to de-coat/prepare them for public display is huge, and very expensive. The few that are on display were prepared by volunteers.
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The USAF is currently in the market for a new stealth bomber. There's a concern that they might not have enough B2s.
B2, new stealth bomber, F-22, F-35 'bomb truck'
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B1s and B52s
There's still/going to plenty to spare.
B2, new stealth bomber, F-22, F-35 'bomb truck'
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B1s and B52s
There's still/going to plenty to spare.
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From AVweb today
Final Flight For Stealth Fighters
The U.S. Air Force is retiring its fleet of F-117 Nighthawks, which were the world's first attack aircraft to employ stealth technology. The single-seater aircraft made its first flight in 1981 at the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada. The Nighthawk program remained classified until 1988, when a photo of the jet was first unveiled to the public. The Air Force said the decision to ground the fighters was based on economics. "With aging aircraft fleets and infrastructure, senior Air Force leadership has made hard choices to pay for modernization of our overall aircraft inventory," said Air Force spokeswoman Diana Filliman. "One of these decisions was to accelerate the retirement of the F-117, and use the savings generated to accelerate the recapitalization and modernization efforts underway across the fleet." Fifty-nine of the F-117s were built, the last one in 1990, and seven of them crashed. During more than 1,000 sorties flown by Nighthawks during Operation Desert Storm in the early 1990s, not one was shot down, the Air Force said.
"It was like flying into the biggest fireworks demonstration you have ever seen," recalls Brig. Gen. Greg Feest, reflecting on the first night the F-117s were deployed over Iraq. "Realize, we were in the heart of it. Because of the delivery system we had at the time, we had to be down low. We couldn't fly over the AAA (anti-aircraft artillery) ... We didn't know if [the stealth technology] was going to work. The engineers all assured us that it would. At the end I was amazed to see I had a checkmark next to every call sign and every pilot's name, knowing we were all coming home." After a retirement ceremony this week, the airplanes will be stored in Nevada. The Nighthawk's mission will be taken over by the F-22 Raptor.
Final Flight For Stealth Fighters
The U.S. Air Force is retiring its fleet of F-117 Nighthawks, which were the world's first attack aircraft to employ stealth technology. The single-seater aircraft made its first flight in 1981 at the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada. The Nighthawk program remained classified until 1988, when a photo of the jet was first unveiled to the public. The Air Force said the decision to ground the fighters was based on economics. "With aging aircraft fleets and infrastructure, senior Air Force leadership has made hard choices to pay for modernization of our overall aircraft inventory," said Air Force spokeswoman Diana Filliman. "One of these decisions was to accelerate the retirement of the F-117, and use the savings generated to accelerate the recapitalization and modernization efforts underway across the fleet." Fifty-nine of the F-117s were built, the last one in 1990, and seven of them crashed. During more than 1,000 sorties flown by Nighthawks during Operation Desert Storm in the early 1990s, not one was shot down, the Air Force said.
"It was like flying into the biggest fireworks demonstration you have ever seen," recalls Brig. Gen. Greg Feest, reflecting on the first night the F-117s were deployed over Iraq. "Realize, we were in the heart of it. Because of the delivery system we had at the time, we had to be down low. We couldn't fly over the AAA (anti-aircraft artillery) ... We didn't know if [the stealth technology] was going to work. The engineers all assured us that it would. At the end I was amazed to see I had a checkmark next to every call sign and every pilot's name, knowing we were all coming home." After a retirement ceremony this week, the airplanes will be stored in Nevada. The Nighthawk's mission will be taken over by the F-22 Raptor.
The single-seater aircraft made its first flight in 1981 at the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada
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Details here http://www.lazygranch.com/ttr.htm