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Old 1st Mar 2008, 13:38
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I hope the irony will not be lost.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7272834.stm
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 14:15
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Originally Posted by BEagle
What an astonishing comment to be made by an heir to the throne of England.

Sorry, Harry, you did an excellent job by going to Afghanistan and fighting for your country. But you have a responsibility of office to uphold - and to state your dislike for your country in such a public way is unacceptable.

I hope you were merely mis-reported.
Not mis-reported, but under-reported, possibly to save some blushes from Gran.

The full text was;
"But I generally don't like England that much and, you know, it's nice to be away from all the press and the papers and all the general ****e that they write."
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 14:16
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"Sorry, Harry, you did an excellent job by going to Afghanistan and fighting for your country. But you have a responsibility of office to uphold - and to state your dislike for your country in such a public way is unacceptable."

I dont know about you but if i had Jurno's shoving Camera's in my face everytime i went down the pub, i'd be pretty pissed of with this Country as well
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 14:20
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New Idea is the third largest magazine is Aus.

Much as their public relations people might like it at the moment, it's misleading to portray it as some minor womens magazine.

Robyn Foyster is Editor-in-Chief, Phil Dampier is their Royal editor. Dampier has made quite a bit of money from the Royals over the years via news syndication and books.

As regards praise for the UK press, I don't think it is warranted given that they would have revealed details had they not been allowed access to Harry. It was a tawdry deal, struck in the best traditions of the press.
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 14:51
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Five months of wrangling over whether to sacrifice someones safety is obscene.

Evil scum (as are the readers who want these stories).

Perhaps next time our soldiers take some journo's out on patrol, they can deal with them in the appropriate manner.
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I like and admire the lad, but I feel so sorry for him. He was doomed from birth. He clearly loves soldiering, is good at it and it keeps him out of the way of the media's lenses for at least some of the time.

I fear that this incident may be the beginning of the end for him. If he can't deploy with troops, there's no way he will want to stay in the Army, and once outside the Forces what on earth will he reasonably be able to do which will allow him to feel comfortable with himself and fulfilled? I see tragedy in the long term unless the public and it's press wind their prurient bl**dy necks in and allow him to get on with his life. And with the likes of Jon Snow around, there's no way that is going to happen. Tragic.

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Five months of wrangling over whether to sacrifice someones safety is obscene.

Evil scum (as are the readers who want these stories).

Perhaps next time our soldiers take some journo's out on patrol, they can deal with them in the appropriate manner.
That is, I'm glad to say, a complete misrepresentation of the facts. As someone who took an active part in the process, I can tell you that the media were on board after the first meeting, albeit highly sceptical that it might work. The five months were the period between the initial meeting and the actual moment he deployed. The negotiations were largely how the media embeds would be managed, not over the principle, and therefore actually had more to do with ensuring that TV and the tabloids played fair with the other sections of the media.

The media very frequently keep material out of the public domain if it might lead to loss of life. This was simply unusual in the way it was organised en masse. I have to say that at the first meeting I thought Dannatt was hopelessly naive and that it would be days before mobile phone video of Harry got back to the UK and someone tried to sell it to a tabloid or some foreign journalist spotted him and reported it.

The media don't need thanking for keeping quiet - although given the accusations of allowing ourselves to be censored, it is clearly a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. The people who should take the credit are Dannatt and, for once, the MoD press machine who between them seem to have pulled off something I personally thought would never work.
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 21:45
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TMJ - The Oz magazine printed the story at the beginning of January, largely unnoticed, it would seem. The damage was done by an American website called the Drudge Report, very widely read and not at all apologetic.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 04:12
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I’ll live in Africa if they don’t let me fight again, says Prince who 'doesn't like England'

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/...e_id=1770&ct=5

Some good to follow from his service.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/...n_page_id=1770

Should the 'New Idea' be renamed 'No Idea'?
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 05:07
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Africa? Plenty of fighting in this neck of the woods if that's the way he wants it.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 06:34
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Get yer bloody haircut son!!!

Or do the posher regiments allow hippy style bouffonts??
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BWFG3,

What a stupid comment. Where the hell do you think he and the rest of the lads returning directly to the UK from up country in the Gan, having spent weeks there, can find a branch of Trumpers?
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 09:22
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Maybe an excuse for the short term, but he's looked like he's needed a good trim for at least 18 months, or are there no barbers in WC 1 either?
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CDS has just been on Sky News. Cracking interview with Adam Boulton.

What was funnier, however, was Adam Boulton's interview with Hazel Blears straight afterwards in which he went on the offensive challenging how the government makes grand statements supporting the Armed Forces, yet don't come up with the funding.

Hopefully Sky will do the good thing and put in on their website later.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 19:45
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here's what he needs - a doppelganger. A chap that looks more or less like him to troll the social scene around the world and get in the glossy mags while he himself heads off to Kosovo or wherever (although hopefully FACs won't be needed much there!)

After all - now if a couple of weeks go by without Harry being in the papers people will start poking around to see where he might be deployed. The current tactic is really a 1-use-only and would have been even without the Australians given that the MoD plainly were ready to release the press hounds once he was back given the volume of copy the Torygraph and others had stockpiled.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 20:26
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This bloke looks a lot like him, and he has the added bonus of military experience...

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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 11:22
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Question

All the song and dance about which media broke the story: Channel Nine Australia ran "The Royal Family" on 25th February showing HM and her weekly meeting with Brown, making direct reference to Harry in Afghanistan. Probably recorded sometime in December 2007, from the time line of the episode.

Not a peep from anyone, especially whoever approved the stuff to go to air. First credit in the closer: "With the approval of Her Majesty"
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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 11:48
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fromtheshadows, I really don't like where your thought processes are going!

Orf to the Tower with you.
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Originally Posted by beerdrinker
BWFG3,

What a stupid comment. Where the hell do you think he and the rest of the lads returning directly to the UK from up country in the Gan, having spent weeks there, can find a branch of Trumpers?
Seconded.

Had the same comments thrown at me after returning from a two year tour in in NI during the 70s. We were allowed a little leeway with hair length and the F/Sgt in the guardroom at my new posting was not amused by my shaggy appearance. I had just come off the overnight ferry, had endured an awful train journey and was in no mood for his snide remarks. My reply to him ensured I had made an enemy for a year or so until he was posted.
Still, at that time I was the only person on base entitled to wear the GSM.
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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 12:33
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havn't worked out the way to maintain the safety of th etroops cause this is just a daft idea anyway but here goes.

Why not spread the rumour that harry and William are in Afganistan fighting the war and their respective girlfriends are out there topping up their suntans as well.

The place will be flooded with all of the useless journo's and paparrazi that care about this kind of tosh and the Taliban can have a swell couple of weeks capturing them and cutting their heads off.

Meanwhile the forces out there can monitor the increased enemy activity and should be able to pick a few more off.

Win wins all round.
 


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