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Duikers, Boks, Bucks, Deer and Gazelles
Porpoises and Dolphins,
Crocodiles, Alligators and Caymans,
Turtles, Tortoises and Terrapins
Lobsters, Crayfish, Langustines, Prawns and Shrimps
Tum te Tum..............
Porpoises and Dolphins,
Crocodiles, Alligators and Caymans,
Turtles, Tortoises and Terrapins
Lobsters, Crayfish, Langustines, Prawns and Shrimps
Tum te Tum..............
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Mr Burns
What a dreadful judge of character you are. Firstly there are far too many skeletons in my cupboard to be a magistrate, and if i was I would be Judge Pickles reincarnate. I have never been nor will be a liberal. My original point for which you have personally slagged me off still stands, i do not believe the chap concerned deserved a jail sentance. Does that opinion deserve your vitriol?
What a dreadful judge of character you are. Firstly there are far too many skeletons in my cupboard to be a magistrate, and if i was I would be Judge Pickles reincarnate. I have never been nor will be a liberal. My original point for which you have personally slagged me off still stands, i do not believe the chap concerned deserved a jail sentance. Does that opinion deserve your vitriol?
Is Mr Rambo Sharpy?? If so how do you know?
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Crikey, what a complete c*ck that Rambo bloke is. If I was the CO at that unit I wouldn't let him anywhere near my cadets.
When I was in the Air Cadets you used to meet the odd CI who was more interested in impressing and wowing the cadets than teaching and coaching them.
I have pondered becoming a CI at times but I'm not sure about the whole set up. I would like to give something back for the 4 very enjoyable years I spent as a space cadet though.
Maybe I could change my name to famous film soldier, would need to be a good one though......Peter Skellen?
When I was in the Air Cadets you used to meet the odd CI who was more interested in impressing and wowing the cadets than teaching and coaching them.
I have pondered becoming a CI at times but I'm not sure about the whole set up. I would like to give something back for the 4 very enjoyable years I spent as a space cadet though.
Maybe I could change my name to famous film soldier, would need to be a good one though......Peter Skellen?
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Quote: He wouldn't be too hard to defeat....just deprive him of his Insulin. Link here and scroll down to his letter on page 5. He appears to do genuine good charity work, so why comprimise it by behaving like a Walt of the first degree?
According to which he's disabled. No antelope, then...
According to which he's disabled. No antelope, then...
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SO is this Sharpy so Sharp!!
For everyone who has paid an interest in this post!!....
Mr_Burns... your are a legend! well in my opinion anyway.
The Facts.... this guy forged documents......
withheld ammunition...in excess of 100 rounds i might add. not 1 box as the papers and Sky said. unless it was a full metal ammo box....
and put a lot of lives at risk...........
Having been on the Front line, this is not acceptable in my book, even more so from an Officer.....
had this been Joe Bloggs airman, then im sure he would have gotten more than 3 months....less good behaviour!!!!
my personal concern is that, as said before, senior officers and peers alike, never addressed the badge wearing issue, and might i add, the instructors on the Alleged courses never did, oh what courses?
in my day, the best lowliest, "rock" in the GDT section was hot on these things.... so why no one else.!!!!
If this guy was as keen to go to Iraq, and keen for military life as he and everyone else who supports him has made out, then why did he NOT attend these courses??? i was a top cabbage and could not get enough..., i did every course i could, much to my wife's dismay!
The main thing is, why would any soul on this earth, want to go to a WAR zone, and not have the proper training!!!!! i know of many a guy, who hated and slated their training, but when in theatre, were so thankful for it.
I was never an armourer, or a fan of their's, however, i doubt for 1 second, knowing their normal attitudes, that any single one of them, would ever deny taking ammo from anyone regardless of it's origin. Hmmmm... did he want to keep it, cause my best guess says he probably did not ever declare it!!!
As for his sentence, well, as said he went to civvy nick, good.
He has disgraced himself, his family and the nature of being a member of the Forces , let alone officer corps, at the end of the day, if he wanted the wings / dagger he should have done the right thing, not pretended, and maybe, just maybe, people might have helped him more,....
Last point, what caused the MoD to suspect him in the first place??????????
Mr_Burns... your are a legend! well in my opinion anyway.
The Facts.... this guy forged documents......
withheld ammunition...in excess of 100 rounds i might add. not 1 box as the papers and Sky said. unless it was a full metal ammo box....
and put a lot of lives at risk...........
Having been on the Front line, this is not acceptable in my book, even more so from an Officer.....
had this been Joe Bloggs airman, then im sure he would have gotten more than 3 months....less good behaviour!!!!
my personal concern is that, as said before, senior officers and peers alike, never addressed the badge wearing issue, and might i add, the instructors on the Alleged courses never did, oh what courses?
in my day, the best lowliest, "rock" in the GDT section was hot on these things.... so why no one else.!!!!
If this guy was as keen to go to Iraq, and keen for military life as he and everyone else who supports him has made out, then why did he NOT attend these courses??? i was a top cabbage and could not get enough..., i did every course i could, much to my wife's dismay!
The main thing is, why would any soul on this earth, want to go to a WAR zone, and not have the proper training!!!!! i know of many a guy, who hated and slated their training, but when in theatre, were so thankful for it.
I was never an armourer, or a fan of their's, however, i doubt for 1 second, knowing their normal attitudes, that any single one of them, would ever deny taking ammo from anyone regardless of it's origin. Hmmmm... did he want to keep it, cause my best guess says he probably did not ever declare it!!!
As for his sentence, well, as said he went to civvy nick, good.
He has disgraced himself, his family and the nature of being a member of the Forces , let alone officer corps, at the end of the day, if he wanted the wings / dagger he should have done the right thing, not pretended, and maybe, just maybe, people might have helped him more,....
Last point, what caused the MoD to suspect him in the first place??????????
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Goosegander
I cannot agree with you more - your post is spot on. If he was so keen, why not do the courses? And there was a failure of leadership...
Although I did experience returning US-sourced rounds to an EAW armourer in Theatre - lots of 'where do you get these from, eh?' I alluded to a combat replen... rather than admitting that we had a bit of a blat down-range (do I now qualify as a Walt, then?)
WP
I cannot agree with you more - your post is spot on. If he was so keen, why not do the courses? And there was a failure of leadership...
Although I did experience returning US-sourced rounds to an EAW armourer in Theatre - lots of 'where do you get these from, eh?' I alluded to a combat replen... rather than admitting that we had a bit of a blat down-range (do I now qualify as a Walt, then?)
WP
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If anyone is in any doubt about the seriousness with which the wearing of military badges should be taken, take time to read the obituary of Pearl Witherington, an outstanding WAAF officer who served with absolute distinction as an SOE operator during the Second World War. It took her until 2006 before she was eventually awarded the parachute wings which she had earned over 60 years previously. Here's the quote:
In 2004 she was advanced to CBE, the insignia being presented to her in Paris by the Queen during a state visit to France.
One official acknowledgement still eluded her - the award of her parachute wings (which she regarded as more important than her appointments in the Order of the British Empire). This was eventually rectified after an RAF parachute instructor went to interview her at her home in France about her wartime experiences, and in 2006 she was presented with the coveted wings.
You will also note (if you read the obituary at the link below) that she also returned her MBE (Civil Division) with a note stating that she had done nothing remotely 'civil' to earn it!
Respect!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3432757.ece
In 2004 she was advanced to CBE, the insignia being presented to her in Paris by the Queen during a state visit to France.
One official acknowledgement still eluded her - the award of her parachute wings (which she regarded as more important than her appointments in the Order of the British Empire). This was eventually rectified after an RAF parachute instructor went to interview her at her home in France about her wartime experiences, and in 2006 she was presented with the coveted wings.
You will also note (if you read the obituary at the link below) that she also returned her MBE (Civil Division) with a note stating that she had done nothing remotely 'civil' to earn it!
Respect!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3432757.ece
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As a sad postcript to a sad tale, it later transpired that the USN regulations were less than clear on requirements for the medal - to such a degree that it is possible that the Adm did qualify.
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I feel no need to defend my post, suicide in these types of circumstances merely leaves the family to cope with the potential shame and ignomony. As I said, my sympathy is with the devastated family left behind....
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Jumping Jack,
I honestly cannot see how in that case it was a "cowards way" out. More like someone who has reached a point where he feels he cannot go on any longer.
I am certain the family will be more concerned with other current emotions than your claims of "potential shame and ignomony".
We will never know what was going on in that individuals mind that led to him take his own life.
Personally, I think your comments are of a "throwaway" nature merely prompting a response.
I am in agreement with Kitbag............your comments are not only stupid but tasteless to boot.
SJ
I honestly cannot see how in that case it was a "cowards way" out. More like someone who has reached a point where he feels he cannot go on any longer.
I am certain the family will be more concerned with other current emotions than your claims of "potential shame and ignomony".
We will never know what was going on in that individuals mind that led to him take his own life.
Personally, I think your comments are of a "throwaway" nature merely prompting a response.
I am in agreement with Kitbag............your comments are not only stupid but tasteless to boot.
SJ
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I actually find Rambos web a little sad. I doesn't look like he is doing any harm, and is at least trying to be useful unlike many of the wank*rs out there stabbing people for jumping the queue in Tesco.
A very wise person once told me that we all live in our own bubbles, and unless it is absolutely necessary the most unkind thing that one can do is burst someones bubble. Live and let live, don't pour scorn on someone because they were dealt a sh1t hand and are doing their best to live with it. There but for the grace of god and all that......
I actually find Rambos web a little sad. I doesn't look like he is doing any harm, and is at least trying to be useful unlike many of the wank*rs out there stabbing people for jumping the queue in Tesco.
A very wise person once told me that we all live in our own bubbles, and unless it is absolutely necessary the most unkind thing that one can do is burst someones bubble. Live and let live, don't pour scorn on someone because they were dealt a sh1t hand and are doing their best to live with it. There but for the grace of god and all that......