RAF Aborted Rescue
Nice try NT but if you read the post properly (without dribbling
) you will see I highlighted the maturity of the first tourist captain in making a difficult decision.
Harmonisation?....ha ha ha ha ha ha
) you will see I highlighted the maturity of the first tourist captain in making a difficult decision.Harmonisation?....ha ha ha ha ha ha
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More to the point, you're embarrassing the Navy and in particular the Culdrose crew who did the job. Their Captain (I presume he was the Captain) was quite modest about the rescue and the conditions at the time compared to the night before, despite the best efforts of the Sky News presenter to sex it up.
NT - just out of interest, the footage that was released was taken by the crew and they removed the previous 30 seconds where the winchman got slammed against the vessel as it rolled violently towards him (he didn't want his family to be distressed since he was still in Cork with no phone and the footage went out straight away). Despite the difficulty of the situation, he still managed to deploy the hi-line but the genius boat crew threw it overboard!!
After that, the vessel had to change heading to avoid a cable-layer that wasn't responding to RT leaving an even trickier winching scenario (parallel deck at 130' with limited references in a 30 to 40 foot swell). Eventually they had to bin it because they were down to chicken fuel.
I have watched a lot more of the footage and it is clear how much the boat was moving.
After that, the vessel had to change heading to avoid a cable-layer that wasn't responding to RT leaving an even trickier winching scenario (parallel deck at 130' with limited references in a 30 to 40 foot swell). Eventually they had to bin it because they were down to chicken fuel.
I have watched a lot more of the footage and it is clear how much the boat was moving.
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Now why might a cable layer be there in the western approaches....and not responing to RT.......
Good Job by all involved regardless of service I am sure the skipper rescued didn't care about the variety of Uniforms.
Good Job by all involved regardless of service
I am sure the skipper rescued didn't care about the variety of Uniforms.
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I'll just add my voice to all those who said ' they don't care who does the job as long as it gets done!'. Be over to Chiv in the next few weeks for a cup of tea, see you soon lads.
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Crab - Don't be silly - in these days of mobile phones and modern telecoms I am sure that the crew were able to phone home! You are not bantering very well mate!
Now the Pilot is safely home and his family know he is safe - can we all see the footage of how much the boat was moving when we weren't looking?? Maybe YOU could post the scary parts on YouTube?
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Now the Pilot is safely home and his family know he is safe - can we all see the footage of how much the boat was moving when we weren't looking?? Maybe YOU could post the scary parts on YouTube?
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Oh sorry I nearly forgot
In reply to Vie Sans Frontier ...... The Navy Captain was very modest about his efforts!!! .... My Point exactly VSF ....
To paraphrase Churchill ........he had much to be modest about!!
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In reply to Vie Sans Frontier ...... The Navy Captain was very modest about his efforts!!! .... My Point exactly VSF ....
To paraphrase Churchill ........he had much to be modest about!!
NT
Yes NT - I believe he was the American exchange officer on 771
The only phone the crew had was the Radops I-phone since the 2 new aircraft mobiles hadn't had the international roaming activated - doh!
It was the winchman not the pilot (I know reading isn't your strongest suit) and no, I wouldn't post it on youtube, you'll just have to come to Chiv to see it
The only phone the crew had was the Radops I-phone since the 2 new aircraft mobiles hadn't had the international roaming activated - doh!
It was the winchman not the pilot (I know reading isn't your strongest suit) and no, I wouldn't post it on youtube, you'll just have to come to Chiv to see it
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Punch him Crabb, when he turns up, punch him!
Often the best form of banter!
Well if nothing else, with this particular thread, I have learn't how to spell 'puerile'. A word I have often wanted to use but never been sure how to spell.
I have often said it, the hardest decision is saying no! Well done that Captain for showing Captaincy. Well done the RN crew for doing the job later on. And well done Liz for getting the people off St kilda - now there is a nasty little place with the wrong wind direction!
Often the best form of banter!
Well if nothing else, with this particular thread, I have learn't how to spell 'puerile'. A word I have often wanted to use but never been sure how to spell.
I have often said it, the hardest decision is saying no! Well done that Captain for showing Captaincy. Well done the RN crew for doing the job later on. And well done Liz for getting the people off St kilda - now there is a nasty little place with the wrong wind direction!
Having been to St Kilda when it has been blowing a bit I will add my piece.
I have flown with women pilots and having been brought up in an age when it was all blokes I was sometimes somewhat apprehensive. Some needed experience to mature and overcome the predudice from other male pilots but in the end they are as able as any other. Some were absolutely useless, as with others of the opposite sex. Liz demonstrated to me, and hopefully to anybody else who is living in the past, that they are capable of doing the job as well as anybody.
Taking the ATS as an example how many of the heros on this thread could climb into a Lancaster, with a page of A4 as a guide, and fly it solo across the UK.
I have flown with women pilots and having been brought up in an age when it was all blokes I was sometimes somewhat apprehensive. Some needed experience to mature and overcome the predudice from other male pilots but in the end they are as able as any other. Some were absolutely useless, as with others of the opposite sex. Liz demonstrated to me, and hopefully to anybody else who is living in the past, that they are capable of doing the job as well as anybody.
Taking the ATS as an example how many of the heros on this thread could climb into a Lancaster, with a page of A4 as a guide, and fly it solo across the UK.
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A question from a non military wallah.
How can (do?) you train for such a rescue? I understand the basic training concept in so far as winching up, down and suchlike is concerned. But how do you train/simulate something darker than a dark thing a long way from base with a lot of blowey wind and waves?
Or is it "just" down to good airmanship and training built on repetition of actual scenarios and training ex in better conditions?
No points scoring, just interested for own interest.
How can (do?) you train for such a rescue? I understand the basic training concept in so far as winching up, down and suchlike is concerned. But how do you train/simulate something darker than a dark thing a long way from base with a lot of blowey wind and waves?
Or is it "just" down to good airmanship and training built on repetition of actual scenarios and training ex in better conditions?
No points scoring, just interested for own interest.
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No different from Combat Aircrew etc. They train and train but the real thing may be doubled and in spades.
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I can understand a lot of similarities but how can you train for winching someone down in a damn strong wind in the dark? I can understand you can "simulate" combat missions and do actual fast jet practice but short of hovvering from a fixed thing in a wintunnel it seemed very hard
Fair play to the crews for their skills.
Fair play to the crews for their skills.
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Banter as requested.
Wot I heards from the eng shed at sunny chiv was that the curry had turned up at the shed and the crew were desparate to get back before the lineys snarfed it.......
That reminds me, is that big nosed freak dingy sailor Odo still hiding at chiv? and what about his mini fixing apprentice the woody??
As to the sailor boys picking up the casualties..... I heard they did it in Falmouth Harbour and then did a traditional Navy GPS buggers muddle and asked for tea, medals, a pay rise, two new flattops and a V/STOL aviating machine as a reward
That reminds me, is that big nosed freak dingy sailor Odo still hiding at chiv? and what about his mini fixing apprentice the woody??
As to the sailor boys picking up the casualties..... I heard they did it in Falmouth Harbour and then did a traditional Navy GPS buggers muddle and asked for tea, medals, a pay rise, two new flattops and a V/STOL aviating machine as a reward
