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Old 16th Dec 2007, 23:08
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Did wonder what she was doing all on her own, is that normal?

What if she had gone for a comfort break?
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 02:15
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"But when I listened to the recruiting office I thought, 'Hmm, why not? Pilots are sexy."
Yes we are. Glad you joined for the right reasons, love!

All joking aside, good skills...and BIG Cojones, in this litigious day and age!

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 08:46
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@ Clicker
yea pretty normal. Used to be one controller and one assistant in the radar room at night. Kinloss had the same (one tower / one assistant).
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no the other controller that said she was just doing her job is telling the truth. She was handed a difficult situation but her training got her through. She wouldn't have been allowed to do a night shift if she wasn't properly trained to do APP/DIR

The drama of the article makes it out to be more heroic than it probably was.

And i doubt she'd be
just out of training
She would probably have done Gnd, PAR, Deps then App/Dir, so probably been at Lossie for a good 6 months at least.

And i don't think it really is in the same league as somebody risking their own life for someone else.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 08:59
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Yes, she was indeed just doing her job. But it is a complex and responsible job which threw a difficult and nearly catastrophic situation at her out of the blue (or grey). She handled it calmly, with complete professionalism, common sence and moral courage, thereby undoubtedly saving the life of a tosser who, hopefully, has subsequently had his license revoked.
Certainly not in the same league as someone who puts their own life at risk, but nevertheless an excellent advertisement for the RAF and the Armed Services in general. Be proud of her.
Pity about the journalistic overkill, but still a very positive article for a change.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 14:42
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Sounds like a job well done by the Lady.

The tosser who was also involved sounds like one of the more insane ferry pilots. Some of them just keep plunging new depths of incompetence, just last week one caused his own bit of chaos with Scottish, also en route to Wick, after 20 hours flying from Canada in a 172!

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 14:48
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I have known Annie since IOT, having been in the same set, and I can say that I can't think of a better person to win such an award. I ran into her the other night at happy hour, and such was her modesty that we spoke for some time and she didn't mention it once. I found out quite by chance the next day. Top work by a very likeable, down to earth lady. And if you believe her comments about fancying pilots as a motivation then you can add yourself to the list of people taken in by her dry sense of humour - I bet she was laughing out loud when she saw that one published!

Oh, and as far as I recall the tattoo stops at mid thigh!
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:25
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Oh, and as far as I recall the tattoo stops at mid thigh!

That's all very well, but does anyone "recall" just how many eyes the snake has ....?

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 20:16
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ZH 875, my tongue was wedged firmly in my cheek wrt my previous post. Sorry that I caused confusion.

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 21:04
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But where was the serpent's tongue lodged?

Firmly inside a cheek? But which one....

Top result for that lady ATCO - very well deserved award indeed!
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 15:13
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"...........blue tights..."!!! Surely not whilst in uniform?!?
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 16:55
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What is an 'RAF worker' - as that is how she was described on the news.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 18:39
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this article contains the RT exchange between Lossie, Kinloss and the aircraft concerned

Enjoy
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 20:34
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Sorry guys but when you see who else were getting awards, I'm afraid she really does fall into the "just doing her job" category, as she reckons a colleague remarked. There are fine young servicemen and women doing heroic things every day inside and outside the homeland, and although this is a bit of a PR job, it does leave a little bit of a bad taste.

I'm also afraid the faux modesty doesn't do anything for me either. Still, does no harm for one's career, what what what?

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Old 19th Dec 2007, 00:01
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Yeah great job she done but yet again publicity with tits makes a great sit down at tea time story ,i commend her for doing her job , thats what officers do thats why they do that job, i like many have done commendable jobs and not even got a pat on the back , i know guys have done equivelent and have saved lives by doing there job but its classed as doing your job.Its like WW2 you need a few heros and officers are the way to justify what they do , since when did you see an airman in the news as of late .Ill say no more
 
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[banter] I hear what you all say ... but let's be fair, she's always going to do more in the bravery stakes than an F3 mate ever will [/banter]
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"She was alone in the dark, face green from the glow of a radar screen. Fierce winds were tearing into the air traffic control tower as Annie Geisow sat watching out for planes with pilots brave – or stupid – enough to try flying through the storm that was lashing the north coast of Scotland."

Now if that doesn't have you checking your wifes Mills and Boob read list then.............

"I knew it was probably bad," says Geisow, "but I had no idea how bad it was going to get."

Good grief

"So Geisow started to transmit something called the Instrument Landing System"................................

Ah so that's how it works

"I got this chap on the radio. He was Russian, and very difficult to understand. We had a brief discussion, if you can call it that. I had to junk the technical language and keep it very simple."

Russian Where the **** was the Bufoon QRA..............chrikey doodles!!

"I wasn't militaristic," she says. "I wasn't fit. I was a bit punky. But when I listened to the recruiting office I thought, 'Hmm, why not? Pilots are sexy. And it's a very big challenge. I like those.'"

So bird walks into AFCO and say "I want shagging by lots of pilot types"........does'nt make her a bad person but come on.........

The unwitting pilot was no more than 150 feet above a series of huge electronic masts feeding vital signals to planes for miles around. "If he touched one of those he would crash and die. The transmitters would go down as well."

No **** Sherlock

"We can go to prison for negligence. I had that in my mind. But in the heat of the moment I was like, 'What's more important – your life or my jail term"

Now that is vomit inducing

Worse yet, another voice startled her. A Royal Mail transporter was coming down out of the sky, oblivious to the disoriented small plane buzzing below. They could have collided over the base, or homes nearby.
Thinking fast, Geisow told the Mail man to circle until the crisis was over.

Even someone who makes tea could come up with "Royal Mail # hold at FL blah blah.................

!' But then I realised I had another aircraft that still needed to get down."What did Geisow do next? The answer is typical of this wry woman, and the RAF mentality. "I might have allowed myself a brief, 'Yeah

So two aircraft in one shift................Ever sat at the holding point at an RAF base with an aircraft turning finals 7 miles away..........now consider sat at the holding point at Minneapolis with one just taking the high speed turn off and one two miles out and you are cleared to line up.........................

Another air traffic controller said to me, 'I can't believe you won that just for doing your job.'"

Breasts are always a big help in this sort of thing

All joking aside remeber how Caz Leavey was stitched.............I suspect a whole host of journo "license" went into this story

Good job Annie
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Old 20th Dec 2007, 09:10
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Us air traffickers have never been very good at blowing our own trumpets, which is why the cone-heads continue to steal a march on us.

Well done Annie. It is just a shame none of our elders and betters from the ATC desk at AIR Cmd could be bothered to support you at No 10.
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Old 20th Dec 2007, 14:16
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Sounds like a terrific job by an enterprising young lady who had the balls (figuratively speaking) to put her career on the line to help save an idiot.

Q. What would have been the reaction of the top brass had the pilot speared into the radio masts? Great shame kid, you had a bloody good try?

A. Nope! They would have hung, drawn and quartered her for breaking every vectoring and terrain clearance rule in the 552. Ask Spot. And the journos would have portrayed her as a tattoed punk who should never have been let within a mile of a control tower.

Well done Anne. Just be very, very careful in future. They'll get you if they can!
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Old 20th Dec 2007, 16:26
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Well done, indeed. Good work.

It has to be remembered these are 'showbiz' awards backed by Vodafone, the Daily Express and GMTV, and as such, have done a great job in keeping the RAF in the public eye over a number of years. As for the over-dramatic reporting, I read about this (in RAF News) a couple of months ago, and that report certainly reflected the controller's excellentwork.
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Old 20th Dec 2007, 16:41
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Obviously a good job done under some fairly hairy circumstances, especially for one not long out of training, but does this really come under the category of 'bravery' as suggested on the RAF website?
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