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India to extend Sea Harrier by 15 years

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Old 29th Nov 2007, 09:20
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India to extend Sea Harrier by 15 years

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The Indian navy is to go ahead with a "limited upgrade" of its carrier-borne BAE Systems Sea Harrier fighters.
This is to be completed in 2008 and will extend their lives by 15 years.
The upgrade, to be performed by Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics, will include more advanced sensors, radars and avionics.
According to defence minister A K Antony, half of India's Harrier fleet has been lost in accidents.
(My italics).

It would be interesting to know the average annual attrition rate and whether there are enough left to last the fifteen years.

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"are enough left to last the fifteen years."
good question, are the Indians still looking to buy our new build FA2 airframes, minus the radar and other systems
last i heard they'd just completed an upgrade with the Isreali's
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This is old news, they're using Elbit radar etc & French Mica BVR missiles.

As far as I've heard the attrition rate has been very low; the general opinion of the flight test team which went to Goa was, they could teach the RN a thing or two ! I.e, a lot less B.S...
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00, sorry to polish the chip on your shoulder re the RN, but the Indian Navy has had 29 aircraft delivered since 1983/84, of which 14 have been involved in accidents. (Source :http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Harrier.html) This is about 50% (as quoted in the first post by the way)-so hardly "very low" but not necessarily sky high DEPENDING on the type of flying they indulge in. If its all weather, day and night ship ops-fair enough. If its less operational then maybe not. I have no idea what the RN stats are (except my one!!) but it may be difficult to compare like with like. Given that these are pretty old airframes relying on one Peggie in hot and humid conditions, I'm pleasantly surprised it isn't higher.
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Double Zero - Confirm they've gone for Mica? I thought they'd bought Derby along with the Israeli radar.
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anybody have a telephone number to India, so I call for some spare parts for XZ439??
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Phone any UK customer services line, they tend to put you through to India.....
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Spocla - I'm pretty well balanced, with a chip on both shoulders.

My Father ( still with us I'm glad to say ) was an engine fitter in the mid & far East on Seafires & Hellcats, Escort Carriers when he volunteered for WW2...I did my microscopic contribution towards the Seajet both when it was in F.I. Action & later development - a lot less input than you made I suspect but we all did our best.

I can't help being a bit cynical about 'the system' or whatever you call it after seeing what happened to Taylor Scott & his family ( an RAF aircraft &/or systems killed him ) - though glad to say his widow won in the end.

ORCA - last I heard was Mica, but am out of the loop now.
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Last I heard in June was the the Elta/Derby config had been binned, no a/c have been so adapted. Plan B was being investigated. Mica is/was very a effective combination. The airframes at Shawbury were originally discounted but back in the frame as parts. Last I heard, but it was a while ago.
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