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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 20:50
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Whilst playing with the spams recently I saw them saluting each others beige wooly hats. Most bizarre.
 
Old 23rd Nov 2007, 21:01
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Strangely, I work somewhere where noone wears hats (or salutes ) - aircrew or support and the point is it makes them more professional not less.

Of course I mean more professional aviators, focused on achieving the mission. We could (and probably will) debate endlessly whether it makes you a more professional officer!
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 21:17
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Sorry!
What I meant:
If not secured properly - not to be worn in a flight line enviromemnt.
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 21:24
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After 17 years in the air force, I still occasionally forget to put it in my car in the a.m. from time to time. It just ain't natural to wear one d'ya see?
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 13:10
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The RW SOP18 brief ensures that each member of the crew takes a different hat (beret, chip bag or No1) so we all look different to annoy the army, oh and different jackets too!

But if you go down the flying suite when flying arguement why are there so many office workers wearing greens instead of blues??

Landing with 8lbs of fuel, are you flying a motor glider??

Not too fussed about taking my beret away with me but I ensure I have my dancing shoes and six shooters
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 15:29
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You'll find your SD hat useful when sitting on the floor outside Woolies post your retirement
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 18:33
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so what are the stats for engine fod damage caused by a hat, military or otherwise!! and how does a chip bag hat damage differ from SD hat, ooh and god forbid ya might have a beret
Bet when ya go to BA and they tell ya to wear yr hat in public you will not winge
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 23:01
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By the time I regressd to Shacks I used to carry a complete set of Civvies in my para-bag. Rather more useful and used quite frequently.
I remember the 'Royalty' at Lossie always carried a spare set of civis, including shoes, in his rucksac.

"You never know what hotel you might end up in for the night and it is very bad form to wear flying boots in the restaurant"
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 00:41
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Angel The Golden Rule.

"If you can't fight, wear a big hat."
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 01:05
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How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?


Well we all **** the same , breath the same air. Calling somebody sir does piss me off especially if its one that thinks he has gods right to fly an aircraft and is deemed to be better than anyone else !!!
 
Old 25th Nov 2007, 12:29
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Actually, it's not widely known but the RAF now has a scheme whereby anyone can fly an aircraft and be called "sir". All you have do do is submit your application to OASC, either from the Careers Office or via the Orderly room if currently serving. Then its simply a case of passing a few tests, doing some interviews, show a bit of initiative and before you know it, you'll be on the Pilot's Course and being saluted - if wearing a hat of course.

Recent studies show that those most likely to be successful at OASC are those self-starting, stable extroverted types who didn't have the patience to wait for God to give them that right, but took it themselves. As for those who try and fail, most go through life much happier that they tried for something that was difficult, but now know why they didn't make it, rather than wonder for ever if they could have done it. I've heard that a few individuals can feel bitter and twisted at the good fortune and self-determination of the successful candidates, but I have not encountered this yet.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 12:35
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But of course you don't have to call anyone sir (or ma'am)! Nip down to Handbrake House, hand in your 1250 & march smartly out of the main gate. Easy.
 
Old 25th Nov 2007, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Magnersdrinker
How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?
Only if the lower rank is a complete to$$er.

I speak as a member of the "minion" corps.

However, some were called "Sir" out of respect, and some were called "sir" because I had to.

Thankfully, most of them were respectful Sirs.


Now I do object to calling MP's 'sir'.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 14:17
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Originally Posted by Two's in
I've heard that a few individuals can feel bitter and twisted at the good fortune and self-determination of the successful candidates, but I have not encountered this yet.
I was taken to task by one such on Pprune a while back but I seem to remember there were many dissenting voices who argeed. Once the disapointment passed and the pressure was off they often felt better for having tried and then being chopped.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 14:45
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Magners Drinker

May I suggest that you stop drinking Magners. It would appear that drinking it turns you into a blithering idiot, particularly if you reread your infantile posts on this topic and the FGR4 topic.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 15:16
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Originally Posted by Green Flash
Whilst playing with the spams recently I saw them saluting each others beige wooly hats. Most bizarre.
Item in today's Sunday Telegraph, old boy, 75, told to remove is hat in a store because it obscured his face for the CCTV. He said he was of a generation that wore a hat and only removed it for funerals or Royalty.

Had a similar experience at a US BX, airman at the door telling everyone to remove their headress on entering the store.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 15:37
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'Magners Drinker

May I suggest that you stop drinking Magners. It would appear that drinking it turns you into a blithering idiot, particularly if you reread your infantile posts on this topic and the FGR4 topic.'


HEAR HEAR!
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 16:09
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HATS why bother?

To Test & Evaluate Heavy Aircraft, amongst other things
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 18:48
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Well I got it Tightflester, but I am afraid most people on here won't.

Even so, get your coat!

STH
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 19:40
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Sir, Yes Sir... coat retrival in progress
Might as well get my hat too..... or do I really need one?
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