Hats- why bother?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 250 ft agl
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hats- why bother?
My Friday morning rant:
Why do we still wear headdress? It's too hot in the summer, and too easy to be blown off in strong winds. By all means keep them for ceremonial duties, but can't we just be authorised not to wear them on station.
When 'one' diverts, 'ones' hat is not always packed for such eventuality. Maybe it should be part of the outbrief for bad weather ops...
* In the GREEN
* Authorised
* LL route booked and copy left in Ops
* Hat, just incase you divert so that the SWO doesn't shout at you whereever you just managed to get into with your last 8 lbs of fuel.
Is a helmet acceptable to wear around the stn if I've not got my hat??
SMT
Why do we still wear headdress? It's too hot in the summer, and too easy to be blown off in strong winds. By all means keep them for ceremonial duties, but can't we just be authorised not to wear them on station.
When 'one' diverts, 'ones' hat is not always packed for such eventuality. Maybe it should be part of the outbrief for bad weather ops...
* In the GREEN
* Authorised
* LL route booked and copy left in Ops
* Hat, just incase you divert so that the SWO doesn't shout at you whereever you just managed to get into with your last 8 lbs of fuel.
Is a helmet acceptable to wear around the stn if I've not got my hat??
SMT
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
How would you salute or, more importantly, return salutes?
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: firmly on dry land
Age: 81
Posts: 1,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
When I started flying we generally wore No 2 trousers under the flying suit and No 2 jacket over the flying suit. It went without saying that we went to the aircraft with shirt and tie and SD Hat.
Later this was upped to No 1s, jacket over flying suit - very smart with the blue FS underneath
.
Then on the Vulcan Mr Roe very thoughtfully provided an SD Hat stowage for the Nav Rad and AEO. We also used to carry a rather large folding garment carrier into which 5 sets of uniform were stowed. At Prestwick on day dark we emerged from our aircraft in our No 2 Zuit Suits whereas the Boss's crew next to us only had flying suits. As I was properly dressed I was despatched to the terminal to buy toothbrushes etc - for them.
By the time I regressd to Shacks I used to carry a complete set of Civvies in my para-bag. Rather more useful and used quite frequently.
In 6 months in Acsension, despite orders to the contrary, no one wore hats except the 3 sqn ldr, the maj, the 2.5 and the Commander.
Now it is a 'hunt the hat' on rare occasions.
Headress OTOH, like Occasional Aviator is a necessity to stave off wind burn. However a grateful Air Force meets my needs with a free baseball cap emblazoned Royal Air Force.
Later this was upped to No 1s, jacket over flying suit - very smart with the blue FS underneath
.Then on the Vulcan Mr Roe very thoughtfully provided an SD Hat stowage for the Nav Rad and AEO. We also used to carry a rather large folding garment carrier into which 5 sets of uniform were stowed. At Prestwick on day dark we emerged from our aircraft in our No 2 Zuit Suits whereas the Boss's crew next to us only had flying suits. As I was properly dressed I was despatched to the terminal to buy toothbrushes etc - for them.
By the time I regressd to Shacks I used to carry a complete set of Civvies in my para-bag. Rather more useful and used quite frequently.
In 6 months in Acsension, despite orders to the contrary, no one wore hats except the 3 sqn ldr, the maj, the 2.5 and the Commander.
Now it is a 'hunt the hat' on rare occasions.
Headress OTOH, like Occasional Aviator is a necessity to stave off wind burn. However a grateful Air Force meets my needs with a free baseball cap emblazoned Royal Air Force.
Had an LAC who solved this problem. He interpreted the rules on not saluting when without hat, literally. Every time an officer approached he whisked off his beret and sauntered on. Eventually was released from service classified as an "admin burden".
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Tennessee - Smoky Mountains
Age: 55
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
What's next? No boots? Shoes are ever so much more comfy.
Why wear DPM when on duty guarding buildings, which inherently bear little resemblance to DPM?
Why polish buttons, they still work if they're dirty.
Why iron your shirts and trousers, they're the same colour and fit, creases or not.
How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?
Since we're not actually going to shoot Ms Rugmuncher of CND when she scales the fence, why do we arm our prowler patrols?
Or how about just cracking on, and doing things professionally?
Why wear DPM when on duty guarding buildings, which inherently bear little resemblance to DPM?
Why polish buttons, they still work if they're dirty.
Why iron your shirts and trousers, they're the same colour and fit, creases or not.
How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?
Since we're not actually going to shoot Ms Rugmuncher of CND when she scales the fence, why do we arm our prowler patrols?
Or how about just cracking on, and doing things professionally?
TAC Int Bloke
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I was with Roadster280 right up until his last line.....
At STC because of the multiplicity of Officers it was considered bad form to wear a hat - until the new Stash didn't get an ego boosting wave one morning and it was hats, silly, helicopter landing pad No1 Mk1 for all
At STC because of the multiplicity of Officers it was considered bad form to wear a hat - until the new Stash didn't get an ego boosting wave one morning and it was hats, silly, helicopter landing pad No1 Mk1 for all
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What's next? No boots? Shoes are ever so much more comfy.
Why wear DPM when on duty guarding buildings, which inherently bear little resemblance to DPM?
Why polish buttons, they still work if they're dirty.
Why iron your shirts and trousers, they're the same colour and fit, creases or not.
How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?
Since we're not actually going to shoot Ms Rugmuncher of CND when she scales the fence, why do we arm our prowler patrols?
Why wear DPM when on duty guarding buildings, which inherently bear little resemblance to DPM?
Why polish buttons, they still work if they're dirty.
Why iron your shirts and trousers, they're the same colour and fit, creases or not.
How about calling people Sir? Doesn't it inflict an inferiority complex on the lower rank?
Since we're not actually going to shoot Ms Rugmuncher of CND when she scales the fence, why do we arm our prowler patrols?
In 10 years I wonder if they'll call you a visionary.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Hampshire
Age: 68
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm surprised that a goverment beancounter hasn't proposed a no hats rule for the army. After all the only civvies wearing hats for everyday use are chavs and who wants to be one of them!
A no hats rule for the army will also get rid of all those 'cap badge' arguments used to keep the likes of the South Essex Light regiment of foot alive. - No cap no cap badge. Anyway it must cost billions keeping all those different coloured berets on order.
A no hats rule for the army will also get rid of all those 'cap badge' arguments used to keep the likes of the South Essex Light regiment of foot alive. - No cap no cap badge. Anyway it must cost billions keeping all those different coloured berets on order.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: A lot closer to the sea
Posts: 665
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Normally right blank
What about flight deck 'hats' which protect your head, hearing and eyesight during launch and recovery? Worn properly they are essential PPE and not a FOD hazard at all. Chip bag hats on the other hand...
What about flight deck 'hats' which protect your head, hearing and eyesight during launch and recovery? Worn properly they are essential PPE and not a FOD hazard at all. Chip bag hats on the other hand...