Just a photo. But what a photo.
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Hi Magners
This is the one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Maiden
I must look out for it - bound to be on BBC2 over Xmas!
Gareth
This is the one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Maiden
I must look out for it - bound to be on BBC2 over Xmas!
Gareth
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Decapotable - if I ever have a significant lottery win, I'm first in the queue!
If it's the Euro Lottery try to get the one Citroen are supposed to have built especially for General de Gaulle when he was President de la Republique - If it came on to rain when the roof was down, the driver would press a button and the rain would stop!
Jacques
If it's the Euro Lottery try to get the one Citroen are supposed to have built especially for General de Gaulle when he was President de la Republique - If it came on to rain when the roof was down, the driver would press a button and the rain would stop!
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Moggie, don't forget the Citroen SM Maserati - haven't got a piccy available, but it was a beauty - IIRC it had swivelling headlamps too, years ahead of today's motors.
Anyway, to get back to the thread, the Memsahib's Dad (RIP) was an AEO on Valiants and Victors. Not sure of the exact sequence, but he served at Marham, Gaydon, Cottesmore, Wittering and Wyton, retiring from 543 Sqn at Wyton in '67. He was the first aircrew officer to gain 1000 hours on the Victor, probably due to being on the trials for the Victor 1 (uncertain) and 2(definite). You may recall the crash of a 543 Sqn Victor at Wyton during a display flypast - believe the captain was a Sqn Ldr Holland, a 543 Sqn Flt Cdr - well Dad-in-Law had briefed and was kitting up for this flight in the locker room, when in rushed a colleague AEO who told him that he would take Dad-in-Law's slot, as he "...was already in enough trouble and had to go..." The rest is history, but in short, the aircraft was manoeuvred outside it's design limits and broke up, with no survivors.
Anyway, to get back to the thread, the Memsahib's Dad (RIP) was an AEO on Valiants and Victors. Not sure of the exact sequence, but he served at Marham, Gaydon, Cottesmore, Wittering and Wyton, retiring from 543 Sqn at Wyton in '67. He was the first aircrew officer to gain 1000 hours on the Victor, probably due to being on the trials for the Victor 1 (uncertain) and 2(definite). You may recall the crash of a 543 Sqn Victor at Wyton during a display flypast - believe the captain was a Sqn Ldr Holland, a 543 Sqn Flt Cdr - well Dad-in-Law had briefed and was kitting up for this flight in the locker room, when in rushed a colleague AEO who told him that he would take Dad-in-Law's slot, as he "...was already in enough trouble and had to go..." The rest is history, but in short, the aircraft was manoeuvred outside it's design limits and broke up, with no survivors.
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Thats one of those 'gulp' stories isn't it?
The DS incidentally, was the first Citroen to have swivelling headlamps. And yes, the SM was a peach - "Citroen SM - For the sheer joy of driving".
The DS incidentally, was the first Citroen to have swivelling headlamps. And yes, the SM was a peach - "Citroen SM - For the sheer joy of driving".
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Some more artwork, which some may find interesting. Isn't the detailing on the Valiant ad something else? I wonder where the original is now.
Sorry for the chocolate stains.
Sorry for the chocolate stains.
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I visited my 80-year old father last week - during his 43 years' RAF service, he flew the Victor 1 from 1960-1974 (but never flew the Vulcan so no real bias!)... I'd given him a copy of the 'Vulcan 607' book a few months ago... he enjoyed reading about all the 'make do and mend' and 'what could go wrong did go wrong' but I rather liked his final analysis: "If it'd happened 10 years earlier, the answer would have been obvious; we had lots of tanking experience, we had lots of bombing experience - just put some bomb racks back into the Victor - they wouldn't have needed to send an old mate of mine with the Vulcan crew then"!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...t=466937&i=240
Victor tanking near the bottom of this page. Not a bad thread for pics (if a little heavy on quoting photos
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Victor tanking near the bottom of this page. Not a bad thread for pics (if a little heavy on quoting photos
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Even more startling than the Victor masquerading as a 'jet airliner' was the model of the rival 'airliner' - a Gloster Javelin with 4 engines mounted in pairs, VC10 like, but half way up the vertical stabliser! 
No wonder they only showed the model!
RC
No wonder they only showed the model!
RC
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I have to say my favourite as a lad was always the Vulcan...."stealing" the show at RAF Topcliffe early 70's............
This is a fascinating thread but it has made me wonder whether in 50 years time we, and subsequently others, will hold the present in-service machines with such reverence or in some cases, and totally understandable, a reflected pride and joy?
I somehow think not.
This is a fascinating thread but it has made me wonder whether in 50 years time we, and subsequently others, will hold the present in-service machines with such reverence or in some cases, and totally understandable, a reflected pride and joy?
I somehow think not.
This is a fascinating thread but it has made me wonder whether in 50 years time we, and subsequently others, will hold the present in-service machines with such reverence or in some cases, and totally understandable, a reflected pride and joy?
I somehow think not.
I somehow think not.
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What Artwork!
I enjoy the artwork from the old publications. Here's a chance for me to see if I can post a photo myself. Two books that I read from cover to cover as a teenager in the fifties, and yes, I still have them.
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What Artwork.
Something went wrong with "Jet Aircraft of the World"??? Must try again.
The artwork is by Roy Cross, a renowned aviation artist who would later illustrate the box lids of Airfix kits.
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The artwork is by Roy Cross, a renowned aviation artist who would later illustrate the box lids of Airfix kits.
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Some of Roy's original Airfix artwork may be seen here..
http://www.vectis.co.uk/auccat.php?a...Cross+Art+Work.
Some of the prices realised are absurdly cheap for what you got for your money.
More about Roy, and his tremendous Airfix and Flight work here:
http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/cross.htm
http://www.vectis.co.uk/auccat.php?a...Cross+Art+Work.
Some of the prices realised are absurdly cheap for what you got for your money.
More about Roy, and his tremendous Airfix and Flight work here:
http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/cross.htm
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Yes, it's a P-1A and a He178.
The He178 is the second jet listed in the book, which describes the aircraft in chronological order by first flight. The first one is the He-176, but as that was rocket-powered, it's claim to be the first jet to fly may be disputed by some.
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The He178 is the second jet listed in the book, which describes the aircraft in chronological order by first flight. The first one is the He-176, but as that was rocket-powered, it's claim to be the first jet to fly may be disputed by some.
Polecat
(Not really an anorak, just a stickler for detail.)