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Flying hours from 1-6 Jun 07 - 16hrs and all local training. Last time OOA I logged 60hrs in a month. Next deployment i will expect around 75hrs per month due to slight change in job and aircraft performance.
Incidentally if this rate was kept up then I would not actually be allowed to fly for the last 2 months of the year due to JHC flying regulations which cap the amount of hours aircrew can fly. I wonder why they do that!!!
To save your FOI application we are allowed to fly a maximum of 100 hrs a month, 250 every 3 months and 800 per year. Now bearing in mind I personally spend 6 months of the year OOA, that equates to roughly 400 hrs in an operational theatre yearly. We are routinely shot at with small arms, RPG and occasionally rockets/MANPADS and are working right on the limits of aircraft performance. I guess you know all this though seeing as you’re a CT and deploy as much as myself….. All this for a few thousand pounds a year extra. It must be a nightmare for ground crew sitting behind a wire drinking tea, eating biscuits and whingeing about "fooking aircrew".
I average around a 16hr day OOA this is not including being on standby 24hrs a day and rarely getting more than a day or 2 off in 2 months. I regularly work a 50+ hr week in the UK. This doesn’t include exercises, just training on the sqn. At present I have 4 secondary duties, 2 which are fairly noddy but 1 that is a Sqn duty and another which is a station duty. I don’t EVER recall any engineers have anywhere near as many secondary duties, if any.
If you think that aircrew do the job just for money then you are very sadly mistaken. You will never be rich by joining the military. I personally joined to do a job that makes a difference, travel the world and to do what is arguably one of THE best jobs in the world. If you cant see this and are for some reason bitter about it then tough, that’s life. Just as I will never tell you that your choices in life were crap, don’t judge aircrew by the choices they made or the system they have taken advantage of. Next your will be telling me that the SAS don’t need SF pay because all they do is sit about all day waiting for embassies to get hijacked.
Everybody in the military has the same chances to do a job that they want. If you don’t like the system then leave, but don’t make it difficult for people who are still in the system for what ever reason.
I'm intrigued though, have you ever actually flown with any of the guys and been involved in the whole process? My instincts tell me no. I don't ever recall any engineers having a 4 year training package before they can deploy. Maybe its just me but, I think that is maybe why they get paid less.......
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Incidentally if this rate was kept up then I would not actually be allowed to fly for the last 2 months of the year due to JHC flying regulations which cap the amount of hours aircrew can fly. I wonder why they do that!!!
To save your FOI application we are allowed to fly a maximum of 100 hrs a month, 250 every 3 months and 800 per year. Now bearing in mind I personally spend 6 months of the year OOA, that equates to roughly 400 hrs in an operational theatre yearly. We are routinely shot at with small arms, RPG and occasionally rockets/MANPADS and are working right on the limits of aircraft performance. I guess you know all this though seeing as you’re a CT and deploy as much as myself….. All this for a few thousand pounds a year extra. It must be a nightmare for ground crew sitting behind a wire drinking tea, eating biscuits and whingeing about "fooking aircrew".
I average around a 16hr day OOA this is not including being on standby 24hrs a day and rarely getting more than a day or 2 off in 2 months. I regularly work a 50+ hr week in the UK. This doesn’t include exercises, just training on the sqn. At present I have 4 secondary duties, 2 which are fairly noddy but 1 that is a Sqn duty and another which is a station duty. I don’t EVER recall any engineers have anywhere near as many secondary duties, if any.
If you think that aircrew do the job just for money then you are very sadly mistaken. You will never be rich by joining the military. I personally joined to do a job that makes a difference, travel the world and to do what is arguably one of THE best jobs in the world. If you cant see this and are for some reason bitter about it then tough, that’s life. Just as I will never tell you that your choices in life were crap, don’t judge aircrew by the choices they made or the system they have taken advantage of. Next your will be telling me that the SAS don’t need SF pay because all they do is sit about all day waiting for embassies to get hijacked.
Everybody in the military has the same chances to do a job that they want. If you don’t like the system then leave, but don’t make it difficult for people who are still in the system for what ever reason.
I'm intrigued though, have you ever actually flown with any of the guys and been involved in the whole process? My instincts tell me no. I don't ever recall any engineers having a 4 year training package before they can deploy. Maybe its just me but, I think that is maybe why they get paid less.......
Heights good
