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BBD - I think t'was either you or your successor that told me aboot the CAF system - you were both there at the time!
Cannonfodder,
It is not a simple process to delete a crew postion from an aircraft's basic crew complement. The VC10 C1K drills, procedures and documentation were intended for a 5-man basic crew and all had to be changed. An ALM is still required to pre-flight the jet and produce a trim sheet, but at least this can be done with a duty loadie - rather than needing 1 per sortie. I don't believe that the Tristar has ever considered ALM dispatch system and 2 reasons spring to mind.
1. Local AAR sorties are a much smaller proportion of total TriStar flying and consequently no meaningful savings in Sqn ALM maning could be made. As the Sqn will always be manned with one ALM per crew, why do all the work to delete a crew postion for no tangible gain?
2. The ALM has a function on an AAR TriStar to monitor the Air Eng's fuel panel during transfer; a job that is done by the Navigator on a VC10.
Cannonfodder,
It is not a simple process to delete a crew postion from an aircraft's basic crew complement. The VC10 C1K drills, procedures and documentation were intended for a 5-man basic crew and all had to be changed. An ALM is still required to pre-flight the jet and produce a trim sheet, but at least this can be done with a duty loadie - rather than needing 1 per sortie. I don't believe that the Tristar has ever considered ALM dispatch system and 2 reasons spring to mind.
1. Local AAR sorties are a much smaller proportion of total TriStar flying and consequently no meaningful savings in Sqn ALM maning could be made. As the Sqn will always be manned with one ALM per crew, why do all the work to delete a crew postion for no tangible gain?
2. The ALM has a function on an AAR TriStar to monitor the Air Eng's fuel panel during transfer; a job that is done by the Navigator on a VC10.
"BBD - I think t'was either you or your successor that told me aboot the CAF system - you were both there at the time!"
I wasn't aware that the Confederate, sorry, 'Commemorative'
Air Force operated the CC-150 Polaris.
Which is, of course, a mighty fine jet! I guess you mean the Canadian Forces?
In the CC-150T, you can always ask the FRS to stop playing with the MCS and make you a coffee, I guess? Although you might end up wearing it.... I reckon if you stick with the 'smoke curtain' regs that you'll end up with a steward(ess) looking after just the crew - and the others looking after the pax? Let me guess which ones will be selected to look after the crew...
Oh, and 'Trolley Tart' came from a rather nice little ba lady who I met in Bermuda many years ago after we diverted in. She was a no.1 and her dad was a ba captain - he always intriduced her at cocktail parties as 'my daughter the trolley tart' - as a JOKE. I was the Cabin Supervisor (and spare captain to cover for sicknes etc - we had enough flexibility to do that in those days) on that trip, so immediately gave myself the crew description she described! Although I have to say that cabin service was rather slow the next day - I'd had rather a restless night. Oooh yes...
I wasn't aware that the Confederate, sorry, 'Commemorative'
Air Force operated the CC-150 Polaris.Which is, of course, a mighty fine jet! I guess you mean the Canadian Forces?
In the CC-150T, you can always ask the FRS to stop playing with the MCS and make you a coffee, I guess? Although you might end up wearing it.... I reckon if you stick with the 'smoke curtain' regs that you'll end up with a steward(ess) looking after just the crew - and the others looking after the pax? Let me guess which ones will be selected to look after the crew...
Oh, and 'Trolley Tart' came from a rather nice little ba lady who I met in Bermuda many years ago after we diverted in. She was a no.1 and her dad was a ba captain - he always intriduced her at cocktail parties as 'my daughter the trolley tart' - as a JOKE. I was the Cabin Supervisor (and spare captain to cover for sicknes etc - we had enough flexibility to do that in those days) on that trip, so immediately gave myself the crew description she described! Although I have to say that cabin service was rather slow the next day - I'd had rather a restless night. Oooh yes...
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the ALM on the trimotor, keeps an eye on the trim during the flight, backing up what is displayed on the AIMS
There is no actual requirement for him/her to be on the flight deck at all during AAR, although they do have an excellent understandng of the what indications should be on the AAR panel during AAR operations and do provide valuable prompts at times
During ops they are also invaluable when it comes to digging out codes etc that might be required.
occasionaly if the AE is particularly busy or very lazy then the ALM helps out gathering weather if required
Regarding use of the stewards during local flights it has not unknown and is authorised for them to fly as the only non flight deck crew during MCT sorties
There is no actual requirement for him/her to be on the flight deck at all during AAR, although they do have an excellent understandng of the what indications should be on the AAR panel during AAR operations and do provide valuable prompts at times
During ops they are also invaluable when it comes to digging out codes etc that might be required.
occasionaly if the AE is particularly busy or very lazy then the ALM helps out gathering weather if required
Regarding use of the stewards during local flights it has not unknown and is authorised for them to fly as the only non flight deck crew during MCT sorties
