Sea Harrier at Falklands Anniversary
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Greatest respect to the Victor, but I thought the carriers, Atlantic conveyor etc got the majority of Harriers there, the Victors helped the delivery from Ascencion, + the Nimrod & Vulcan flights etc ?
Agree the FA2 is not ideal - in a perfect world the Navy would have had the brains to keep an FRS1 in the Historic Flight - but it's toe-curlingly embarrassing to think of borrowing an Indian FRS 51 even though it'd be nice to see Hermes / Vikrant again and would make a good visit !
Also when training at Dunsfold the Indians proved very professional indeed, so presumably have a different training regime from their ' plant one in every acre' air force...
Agree the FA2 is not ideal - in a perfect world the Navy would have had the brains to keep an FRS1 in the Historic Flight - but it's toe-curlingly embarrassing to think of borrowing an Indian FRS 51 even though it'd be nice to see Hermes / Vikrant again and would make a good visit !
Also when training at Dunsfold the Indians proved very professional indeed, so presumably have a different training regime from their ' plant one in every acre' air force...
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Surely the most important aircraft to have in the flypast would be the Victor K2 without....
Perhaps the powers that be could authorise 'BN' to be repainted to represent its 1982 paint scheme and take pride of place in the flypast.
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have heard rumours that the Vulcan won't be there?
Yes would be nice to see BN in 80's paint scheme and would be even nicer if This historically important airframe could be retired gracefully to the Museum. But am well aware of the shortage of chinooks but if more are ordered I would sugest BN gets early retirement.
Yes would be nice to see BN in 80's paint scheme and would be even nicer if This historically important airframe could be retired gracefully to the Museum. But am well aware of the shortage of chinooks but if more are ordered I would sugest BN gets early retirement.
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Not heard anything about the Vulcan being a no-show but then to be fair, I've never seen anyone offer any suggestion as to who would be paying for it, even if it's ready to fly in time.
Nice though the flypast idea is, you have to wonder if it's going to be a tad pointless when you consider how few appropriate aircraft are likely to be available to take part. Getting a Nimrod would be a struggle, so apart from the two Hercules that are already pencilled-in, that only really leaves the helicopters - and they're a little bit busy at present as we know too well.
Given that there's the traditional flypast for Her Maj on the previous day, I wonder why they didn't combine the two events and simply add the Hercules and a couple of helicopters to the flypast on the Saturday? Oh well, whatever happens, I'm sure the TV crews will manage to miss everything in spectacular fashion
Nice though the flypast idea is, you have to wonder if it's going to be a tad pointless when you consider how few appropriate aircraft are likely to be available to take part. Getting a Nimrod would be a struggle, so apart from the two Hercules that are already pencilled-in, that only really leaves the helicopters - and they're a little bit busy at present as we know too well.
Given that there's the traditional flypast for Her Maj on the previous day, I wonder why they didn't combine the two events and simply add the Hercules and a couple of helicopters to the flypast on the Saturday? Oh well, whatever happens, I'm sure the TV crews will manage to miss everything in spectacular fashion
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Also when training at Dunsfold the Indians proved very professional indeed, so presumably have a different training regime from their ' plant one in every acre' air force...
But thank you for the compliments regarding our Naval pilots, though
Wish we could've taken some F/A-2s after you folks did not want them, Blue Vixen + AMRAAM would be nice. Now our FRS.51 are getting (have got already, maybe) the Elta 2032 and the Derby missile, so they have a few years in them...
Slightly OT:
ISTR it was 70,000 poinds worth of improvements...
hat, coat, etc
"Centre of Belfast Nuked- 70,000 pounds worth of damage done."
hat, coat, etc
Single Engine over London
The person who makes the policy is ACAS.
Recently I believe the policy was that Merlin Spits, Hurricanes and Harriers were not approved for London flypasts.
It is probably the current policy too.
Recently I believe the policy was that Merlin Spits, Hurricanes and Harriers were not approved for London flypasts.
It is probably the current policy too.
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So are Griffon Spits Ok then ???!
As mentioned, I wouldn't be too optimistic about gliding a Red Arrows Hawk over London either...
Must be a recent rule, as I photographed a whole bunch of Spit's & Hurri's from the top of the Norwich Union building for the B of B Anniversary a few years ago.
Rather than get my head around posting pics here, you're welcome to a copy if interested, I'm at [email protected]
I must admit I hadn't realised there's so little participation for the Falklands effort, or the fact there's a display the day before - surely the only thing to make it worthwhile would be to have a SeaJet bow to Her Maj' ? ( I don't mean Madonna ).
I know Art Nalls with XZ439 has all the boxes ticked to re-qualify on Harrier 1 in the USA, but no doubt UK officialdom can still find a spanner to insert.
As mentioned, I wouldn't be too optimistic about gliding a Red Arrows Hawk over London either...
Must be a recent rule, as I photographed a whole bunch of Spit's & Hurri's from the top of the Norwich Union building for the B of B Anniversary a few years ago.
Rather than get my head around posting pics here, you're welcome to a copy if interested, I'm at [email protected]
I must admit I hadn't realised there's so little participation for the Falklands effort, or the fact there's a display the day before - surely the only thing to make it worthwhile would be to have a SeaJet bow to Her Maj' ? ( I don't mean Madonna ).
I know Art Nalls with XZ439 has all the boxes ticked to re-qualify on Harrier 1 in the USA, but no doubt UK officialdom can still find a spanner to insert.
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Hello BD,
please forgive my tongue-in-cheek remark about the IAF !
In fact a treasured possession was a letter complimenting some of my photo's from Captain Macadden ( Spelling ? ) , C/O of the FRS51 unit at Dunsfold.
Now I've tried to refer to it, it seems some thieving **** has had it away from my folio at a reunion !
We were all very impressed by the SHARP team, and BAe - bean-counters from other sites, not Dunsfold staff - soon found the Indians could not have the wool pulled over their eyes ! ( You may know what I'm referring to ).
I do know the flight test teams who were lucky enough to visit India reckoned the RN might learn a thing or two!
A shot of a White Tigers FRS 51 is on www.harrier.org.uk/history -scroll down to 'Harrier Testing'
please forgive my tongue-in-cheek remark about the IAF !
In fact a treasured possession was a letter complimenting some of my photo's from Captain Macadden ( Spelling ? ) , C/O of the FRS51 unit at Dunsfold.
Now I've tried to refer to it, it seems some thieving **** has had it away from my folio at a reunion !
We were all very impressed by the SHARP team, and BAe - bean-counters from other sites, not Dunsfold staff - soon found the Indians could not have the wool pulled over their eyes ! ( You may know what I'm referring to ).
I do know the flight test teams who were lucky enough to visit India reckoned the RN might learn a thing or two!
A shot of a White Tigers FRS 51 is on www.harrier.org.uk/history -scroll down to 'Harrier Testing'
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In defense of the Victors contribution to the Harrier element in Corporate my log book shows I flew three UK to West Africa sorties in early April 1982 refuelling at least two Harriers, maybe three, per sortie and including some SHARs. These aircraft were then supported as they continued on to Ascension. Some were embarked there and others caught the fleet up as it steamed south I believe.There may well have been other Harrier deployments.
It is also worth remembering that both the London and Plymouth Fly pasts were lead by a Victor. It was my crews privilege to lead the Plymouth event.
It is also worth remembering that both the London and Plymouth Fly pasts were lead by a Victor. It was my crews privilege to lead the Plymouth event.
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Victor, flypast
Art Field,
I should be able to find a shot of your aircraft over London then, if you're not knee-deep in them already !
Hats off to yourself & crew...
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I should be able to find a shot of your aircraft over London then, if you're not knee-deep in them already !
Hats off to yourself & crew...
DZ
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Better than nothing, but it's apparently down to Art with '439 or the Indians visiting in Vikrant - couldn't blame them for a wry grin...
Suppose the RN GR7 /9 aircraft could take part, though hardly the same even if 'Sun' readers didn't notice.
Suppose the RN GR7 /9 aircraft could take part, though hardly the same even if 'Sun' readers didn't notice.
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So, which aircraft which flew in the Falklands in 1982 is still flying today and will fly during the flypast?
Seaking Mk 4
Seaking HAS 5 (are 772 aircraft Mk5's ?)
VC 10 ?
C130 ( which variant flew in 1982)
Chinook
Thats about it. Or are there any more?
Seaking Mk 4
Seaking HAS 5 (are 772 aircraft Mk5's ?)
VC 10 ?
C130 ( which variant flew in 1982)
Chinook
Thats about it. Or are there any more?
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Nimrod MR2.
Nimrod R1.
Gazelle.
Shame the PR9's just left service...oops some nice men in black Omegas are knocking on the door!
Ooh and someone somewhere has an airworthy Wasp, I saw it last summer.
MM
Nimrod R1.
Gazelle.
Shame the PR9's just left service...oops some nice men in black Omegas are knocking on the door!
Ooh and someone somewhere has an airworthy Wasp, I saw it last summer.
MM
"So, which aircraft which flew in the Falklands in 1982 is still flying today and will fly during the flypast?"
Mirage
A4
Super Etendard
Pucara?
Mirage
A4
Super Etendard
Pucara?
