Civvy Pilots at AEF's?

[abbotyobs]

Hi,
Anyone have a contact for the AEF at Benson, please pm if poss.
I am just to start the dreaded groundtour nearby.
Thanks

[Wholigan]

PS. You still fly over my garden.....to whom should I direct my complaints??

The only place that complaints are heard is in the bar, so see you there whenever you wish to make a formal complaint !

[EnigmAviation]

AEF

Abbytobs,

Read your PM

[EnigmAviation]

AEF

Oops - sorry it should have been abbotyobs read your PM!!

[will fly for food 06]

I think it was a good idea to relax the QSP and hour requirements for AEF flying. If the holding officer has the required flying skills then its a great PR tool for the cadets to see a young pilot flying them.

[Single Spey]

but any shag with a PPL can fly the same cadet in a Grob motor glider

Not true. Any 'shag' with a PPL can fly any passenger in any aircraft for which he holds the appropriate rating etc. This could include a motor glider. He cannot fly a young person 'as a cadet on duty'.

The 'shags' you refer to who fly air cadets in the Air Cadet motor gliders are pilots qualified in accordance with the appropriate military regulations, administered and standardised by Air Cadet Central Gliding School and CFS.

Not all PPLs make the grade in the Air Cadet Organisation for the award of the appropriate qualification.

London Mil, didn't you qualify?

[StopStart]

The bar you say? I guess a formal complaint could get pretty expensive... Best I see you there then!

[Wholigan]

Actually Stoppers, I'm going to be in "your" bar on the 30th. Dorset & Wilts Wing Air Training Corps annual din-dins.

[StopStart]

Best I swing by and ensure that the very highest standards are maintained then.....

[butlerv1]

civi pilots at AEFs

two are at Glasgow AEF,trained by GUAS QFI and tested by CFS

[PhoenixDaCat]

Rumour has it that in the not too distant future there will be just 3 "super" AEFs, and that the locations of 2 of the 3 has already been decided.

[Ops and Mops]

butlerv1
Ah! As suspected. I guess they must also be RAFVR(T)?

It would be interesting to hear how GUAS/4 AEF managed to get dispensation to train these guys up when the feeling on the thread is that the criteria remains QSP/ex QSP and "winged" holding officers all the way.

I guess they must be pretty experienced CPL/ATPL holders with an FI rating to have even been considered?

Feel free to PM if you would rather continue the discussion in private!

[Roland Pulfrew]

WFFF

I think it was a good idea to relax the QSP and hour requirements for AEF flying

They haven't relaxed the QSP bit. Only holding officers who have been awarded their wings are eligible to "hold" on a UAS and fly cadets. Those who have just finished EFT (on the Tutor) are not eligible to fly cadets as they do not have their wings.

[London Mil]

SS, believe me, I've seen some very ropey 'shags' flying air cadet. I probably still wouldn't make the grade.