Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Inappropriate relationships and drinking within the UAS

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Inappropriate relationships and drinking within the UAS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:08
  #21 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Age: 55
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So just so i'm clear on this. It's ok for an older guy (I'm talking 30-40's)who's been given a position of authority and moral responsibility, to be getting to know rather well, his 18 and 19 year old student. Would it be ok if it was her university lecturer, or perhaps if she was in 6th form and it was her form master?
Seen-A-Lot is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:12
  #22 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
airborne artist, are your posts related?
No, I wasn't the one enjoying the pleasure of two at once - I think he was about four doors down the block and on the other side of the corridor. And sad to say nothing happened with the curvy cadet, so 100% failure on both counts.
airborne_artist is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:13
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: the TOON
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yep, pretty much, they are engaging in extra-curricular activity, and so was I.

Would have been a dull old tour if we all played by the rules... Can't beat a bit of young blood!
MCPwhore is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:28
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seen-A-Lot

grow up and do something official about it, if it is an abuse of power If it ain't - accept that they are gettin some and you ain't and stop whingin

have a spine or crawl back under the stone
stillin1 is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:32
  #25 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Age: 55
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've rattled someones cage have I? To be honest I can think of nothing worse. 18..... no thanks. Like dipping my wick in my mates daughter.
Seen-A-Lot is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:32
  #26 (permalink)  

Hovering AND talking
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Age: 59
Posts: 5,705
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Would it be ok if it was her university lecturer, or perhaps if she was in 6th form and it was her form master?
Why ISN'T it OK - apart from the reason I gave for you? An 18/19 year old girl is NOT a child and, when it comes to girls, they are a lot more mature than boys and are capable (in most cases) of making a decision. As long as it is consenting, what is wrong?

When I was at school, the PE teacher had a "relationship" with a fifth year (she was 16) and, as far as I know, they are still married.

MCPWhore says you can't beat a bit of new blood - I say you can't beat a bit of experience!

Sorry, I've just seen your last post wrt rattling cages. You're a first time poster (although maybe not new to Pprune) and have made some "tut-tut isn't it awful" comments with which very few people agree. So, if you feel a particular situation is "out of order", then you should speak to the appropriate people. If you're asking for other people's opinions to the matter, you'll find that most think there's no big deal.

Cheers

Whirls
Whirlygig is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:38
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Downeast
Age: 75
Posts: 18,290
Received 517 Likes on 215 Posts
I am in need of some refresher training dear Whirls.....
SASless is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:42
  #28 (permalink)  

Hovering AND talking
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Age: 59
Posts: 5,705
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sassy dahling,

I'm not sure it works the other way round i.e. older male student and younger, female instructor!

Nice try sweet!

Cheers

Whirls
Whirlygig is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 16:44
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seen a lot

I don't see anyone in the UAS system complaining, so why the **** are you?
Cattivo is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 17:19
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Inside zone 19
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by muppetofthenorth

.......it is by no means encouraged and it is always stressed that at no time is anybody obliged to drink, participation is always totally voluntary......

Only if you go to a UAS for girls. Man up and get drinking, it will stand you in good stead for the rest of your time in the airforce!
LuckyBreak is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 17:26
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: York
Posts: 517
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Woah! Im not saying I don't drink! I'm just saying that it's not a forced thing...

I know very few people who don't, but I know that if somebody said 'nah, not tonight thanks' we would never push them into it.
muppetofthenorth is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 17:27
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: London
Posts: 500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When I was at school, the PE teacher had a "relationship" with a fifth year (she was 16) and, as far as I know, they are still married.
Not any longer, section 16 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 created the offence of Abuse of position of trust: sexual activity with a child. Without going through it word by word a teacher having any sexual activity with a pupil under 18 who attends the place of education at which he teaches faces up to 5 years of "re-education" at one of Her Majesty's penal institutions.
Legalapproach is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 17:40
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Nigit
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Seen-A-Lot
Like dipping my wick in my mates daughter.
You like dipping your wick in your mate's daughter eh? Does he know?

And you have the front to question UAS staff.
The downright cheek!

I agree with the above. Got a problem - use the chain of command. If you haven't - don't try and stir the sh!t in here. Weasel.

Just cos you ain't getting any...?

Last edited by ProfessionalStudent; 15th Jan 2007 at 18:36.
ProfessionalStudent is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 18:32
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: God's own county
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It genuinely pains me to say it, but if you beleive that the UAS drink heavily you clearly haven't socilised with URNU or UOTC...
Alexander.Yakovlev is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 18:38
  #35 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lincs
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So let me get this right, two (or in some cases three, jammy bar steward!) consenting adults of legal age have been 'getting it on' having met through work; this may also have involved some socialising. Someone not involved has decided to go public rather than confront the issue to those 'bumping uglies'. So, I asume this is Mr Prescott at it again?
Frankly, it's up to them! If they are happy, who are we to complain? If they are not, there are plenty of ways of solving it between themselves (I believe that dumping by text is now de rigeur). For myself, I wonder would it have been ok if one of my IOT Flt Cdrs had offered me a ride; she certainly did in my dreams....................................................
whoops, ND, ND!
BootFlap is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 18:55
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Oxford
Posts: 2,042
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
At most universities that sort of thing is OK but the lecturer has to tell the head of department, so they don't find themselves marking the student's exams... This is quite a good deterrent: having to go to the Professor and explain you are bonking half your seminar group is a tad hard to do. Unless he's doing it too, of course.

Tim
tmmorris is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 20:24
  #37 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Downeast
Age: 75
Posts: 18,290
Received 517 Likes on 215 Posts
Whirls my sweet....even old rats like cheese! I'll go halves on the bar bill....honest!
SASless is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 21:01
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: moon
Posts: 3,564
Received 90 Likes on 33 Posts
With great respect, if any of you or your colleagues are detected having a relationship with a person where there is an instructor/student relationship that implies trust and a position of power in any institution I am aware of, you will be immediately shown the door, notwithstanding legal age etc. etc.

While I am aware of people getting away with it in the services over here, it is NOT a good idea and scandals and lots of tears regularly occur - they just rarely make the media.

P.S. Is pregnancy regarded as a self inflicted wound?
Sunfish is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 21:20
  #39 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Gander
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[SIGH]
I just wish I had the chance with the younger girls these days (16-30 age group before you start)!!!
Saying that....even 30 is pushing it now!!

MOG
mayorofgander is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2007, 21:21
  #40 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
P.S. Is pregnancy regarded as a self inflicted wound?
In the non-PC 80s, pregnant ladies were referred to by A+E staff at Tommys' as "Bedroom stabbings"
airborne_artist is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.