WINGS AND CS95 - Please help!



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From: Lincoln
I thought I would add the perspective from a ground crew person:
When rotortuning Chinooks we originally wore our denims and used GC headsets. Good old Health & Safety came along
and made us wear flying kit. I was lucky enough to get the full nine yards including knife and flying jacket, I have to admit even without badges it was better than our denims, lots of cubby holes and pockets to lose pens and things in, two knee pads to scribble on and a proper helmet to strut around the flight line with. Great on detachments being initially treated as aircrew, soon got dropped a peg or two when they realised. The best bit was when I got posted to St Athan, an order was put out that unless you were authorised nobody could wear the flying jacket, which meant a lot of officers (not ex or current aircrew) had to stop wearing theirs, me I was still allowed to wear mine, that is untill a certain person got upset and had all my kit removed from me, it was fun while it lasted. As far as badges go I think it is up to each individual to decide what is acceptable to them, after all we are supposed to be grown ups with minds and thoughts of our own, not drones.
When rotortuning Chinooks we originally wore our denims and used GC headsets. Good old Health & Safety came along
and made us wear flying kit. I was lucky enough to get the full nine yards including knife and flying jacket, I have to admit even without badges it was better than our denims, lots of cubby holes and pockets to lose pens and things in, two knee pads to scribble on and a proper helmet to strut around the flight line with. Great on detachments being initially treated as aircrew, soon got dropped a peg or two when they realised. The best bit was when I got posted to St Athan, an order was put out that unless you were authorised nobody could wear the flying jacket, which meant a lot of officers (not ex or current aircrew) had to stop wearing theirs, me I was still allowed to wear mine, that is untill a certain person got upset and had all my kit removed from me, it was fun while it lasted. As far as badges go I think it is up to each individual to decide what is acceptable to them, after all we are supposed to be grown ups with minds and thoughts of our own, not drones.
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From: Great Britain
Rules for wings on CS95 were changed in March of this year. The line in the Dress Regs AP was even written in bold and underlined as if to stress the point. Long story short; wings may be worn on CS95 unless operationally inappropriate. No doubt this change came after CAS was back briefed on PPrune comments 
I believe that CASWO is 'selling' the issue of leather flying jackets to all RAF Servicemen/woman (to wear with blues) in a morale boosting exercise. Sounds like one of the budgets is a bit overfull.

I believe that CASWO is 'selling' the issue of leather flying jackets to all RAF Servicemen/woman (to wear with blues) in a morale boosting exercise. Sounds like one of the budgets is a bit overfull.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could

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From: Lincolnshire
and will help our allies distinguish between professional administrator and the professional aircrew.
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From: UK
and....
What's wrong with people wearing their medal ribbons on a daily basis? Or is it some seniors don't want to be shown up by the SAC who is on his second row. When I joined people wore medal ribbons on thunderbird jackets, you soon got to know those who had done something special v the stay at home career enhancer!
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I believe that CASWO is 'selling' the issue of leather flying jackets to all RAF Servicemen/woman (to wear with blues) in a morale boosting exercise. Sounds like one of the budgets is a bit overfull.



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I'd rather wear my leather jacket over my blues on a rainy December night as orderly officer than the horrid raincoat thing they issue, that's for sure. It's already mentioned in dress regulations, so why have it only permitted over a flying suit?
It's just like a stable belt really. A private-purchase item that's a lot better than the issued one.
It's just like a stable belt really. A private-purchase item that's a lot better than the issued one.





