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Old 9th Jan 2007, 10:45
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Reminds me of the very senior Lt Cdr speaking to his Appointer;

'Every year the promotion signal comes out with the cry round the fleet 'how the f*ck did that t*at get promoted, this year I wish to be that officer'.

From a personal view and judging by my illustrious career I thought that the RN had frozen promotions for the last 12 years!!!!
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Hear Hear,.......waves ballot paper!
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Another morale kick in slats! I think how it will manifest itself depends on which branch you are and where you currently sit in the scale of things. There will always be some pull through, dead mans shoes is a traditional route for RN promotion (bloody war and sickly season etc!)

Hopefully Lt Cdrs at IPP will leave in droves leaving lots of jobs for Lts

It's not looking good if you're a fishhead though, no ships to drive, and IMHO this is indeed a crafty way to cut staff numbers without throwing your money away asa generous redundancy packages.

For the youngsters who were not looking at promotion til 2010 at the earliest anyway I can't see it being an issue, certain branches still have black holes from the previously mentioned recruitment freeze anyway.

Lots more bitter and twisted RN officers forecast for 07/08
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Hmmmmm.....puzzle, start to fit it does. Jedi (U) you wish to be. Way of the green side (lid or ovies) you must turn.
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Or way of the Dolphin
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 16:25
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It's not looking good if you're a fishhead though, no ships to drive, and IMHO this is indeed a crafty way to cut staff numbers without throwing your money away asa generous redundancy packages.
Well quite. Had I stayed in I would have been looking at promotion in the next 2 years. Assuming that I now would not have been promoted until 2012, that would have made me 37/38 on promotion to Lt Cdr! And then only if I was selected! I can't think that I would have been hanging around much longer in those circumstances. Of course were I a pusser, I would have been promoted immediately on being eligible (do they have anything to do with promotion I wonder?? ).

Does anyone have the number for that truck driving school? Truckmaster I think it's called....
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 18:12
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SirToppam and Oggin

On a purely historical note, I believe that the original basis for automatic promotion to Lieutenant Commander was that, prior to 1914, the Lieutenants' List was divided between those under and over eight years' seniority respectively. The rank of Lt So, Cdr was introduced as a further distinction and thus a Lt Cdr was in a sense originally deemed to be a "senior" Lieutenant rather than a "junior" Commander in the way a Lieutenant Colonel is a "junior" Colonel, at least before the need for equivalence arrived when the Light Blue were invented, sorry, formed.

Sadly, this adds little or nothing to the real and very important current issue, and we can only hope for the best for those most affected
by whatever finally emerges from the Madhouse.

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Old 10th Jan 2007, 04:37
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Angry Navy Promotion Freeze

Hmmm, did anyone notice the irony on the Telegraph website? Read the Google adverts at the bottom - one from defence.gov.au advertising jobs for the 'navy'. Do you think that will help the MoD'd recruitment and retention issues when the senior Lt RNs log on to the Aussie ADF site and think 'FOST' vs Bondi beach? Guess the promotions board on 18 Feb will be even more eagerly awaited than usual. Notice that the article makes no mention of which branches are 'over-manned' by Lt Cdrs. Obviously it couldn't be the pussers because there are never enough of them...................filthy REMFs.

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Old 10th Jan 2007, 06:41
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RAN Vacancies

There's situations vacant in OZ - see http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/default.asp?p=526
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 15:54
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what an idiotic idea

hi

im in secondary school i have my whole life ahead of me, ive always wanted to be in the mod. so much in fact go to welbeck, however the two main options i had in my mind was the RN or the RAF but now the royal navy have just lost one potential member.

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i mean what a stupid idea! all it is is a sly scam to save money, yet they wonder why people are reseigning

see ya
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 20:31
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May I be the first to issue the SOP slap down:

Before you leave school be sure to get the hang of punctuation.

Calm down, it's just banter - not that you'll ever find out if you're not going to join!

See? Capitals and punctuation marks actually work!
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 20:41
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He is 11 years old, nearly 12; opinionated, and saves every penny of pocket money for a sixth form education at the MOD College / Wellbeck. He does have strong desires for a comissioned career in the military, and despite a parent in the RAF, was biased towards the Navy. If an 11 year old can (without influence) come up with an opinion such as this, then it says a lot for the IQ of the source of this decision.

Compared to his peers, the text was at least understandable. However, he has had the 'after post' debriefing about logging on here at all!! If he posts again, we will debrief around the back of the hangar
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 22:34
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I'll eat my hat .....

'Every year the promotion signal comes out with the cry round the fleet 'how the f*ck did that t*at get promoted, this year I wish to be that officer'.


Reminds me of the time in Singapore, all too many years ago, when, shortly before the promotion signal came out at 1730 GH, the Gunnery Officer of my carrier announced in the wardroom anteroom that, if the CO of the Sea Vixen squadron (well, I did say it was a long time ago ...) were to be selected, he would eat his hat.

At approximately 1740 GH, Guns was to be found chewing rather ineffectually on his Panama hat, surrounded by cheering members of 89* NAS, all drinking at his expense!

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 06:57
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Union Jack

Goonery officers posted to the FAA tended to love ‘liquorice legs’, swagger sticks and loud conversational remarks about falling in on the flight deck in procedure alpha, or facing aft and saluting.

As a genus, they were not the brightest, and generally lacked a sense of humour, peripheral vision and savoir faire. They were thus handicapped in dealing with aircrew.

One exception was Lieutenant Special Duties (as he then was in the mid 60s at BRNC) Frank Trickey RN, a man who stood 6’ 4˝, of which 6’3˝ was chest, and whose normal conversational tone could be heard some 300 yards away. His wit was quick, and his repartee matchless, especially in pointing out to general list seaman officers that he’d earned his rank and not merely drawn it from the clothing store.

I believe he went on to command a frigate (no mean feat for an SD officer commissioned from the lower deck), and was in charge of the ceremonial arrangements for the Charles/Diana wedding at Westminster Abbey.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:16
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Check this out.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/list/open?cat=911

look down the list to the fourth petition.

Unless some time has elapsed and it's moved up to third....second....etc

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 23:27
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Petition

Haggis,

Outstanding piece of research (although possibly indicating you have too much time on your hands!). Whether you are light/dark blue/stinky pongo I commend you to get on to the site and sign the on-line petition -if nothing more than to annoy Tony Bliar.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 23:41
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I see that a petition to recognise Borat as the Leader of Kazhakstan has more signatories than one querying the legality of the Iraq adventure. Perhaps that is a more perfect reflection of the electorates interest and knowledge of world affairs.

May our God/s help us (just trying to be a bit PC. If anybody doesn't like it- tough, I have my own views)
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 23:48
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Borat for President

Kitbag,

Can't believe I missed that one!! Can you imagine the look on Sacha Baron Cohen's face if they actually got that one through!! First Lady Isla Fisher................there's a thought.
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