How Many Aircraft has the RAF Shot Down since Korea?
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Ok. Points taken! Still seems like a waste in hindsight doesn't it?
Like thinking about how much money I've paid out in insurance on my car over the years having never claimed...
Like thinking about how much money I've paid out in insurance on my car over the years having never claimed...
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Probably about the same as the number of parachute insertions (non-SF) we have done since Suez.
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Or you could add, when did the British Army last fight a combat effective (ie greater than 50% CE) convential opposition?
Answer 1982 (and then only with the help of the RM). Neither of the 2 wars against Iraq count as by the time the Land forces arrived at the scene of the action the opposition land forces had been degraded to non-effective by...
... airpower.
I thing you'll find that was RAF Regt not RAFR - and it was not in support of the Hereford Gun Club but in support of the ongoing IO campaign.
Answer 1982 (and then only with the help of the RM). Neither of the 2 wars against Iraq count as by the time the Land forces arrived at the scene of the action the opposition land forces had been degraded to non-effective by...
... airpower.
I thing you'll find that was RAF Regt not RAFR - and it was not in support of the Hereford Gun Club but in support of the ongoing IO campaign.
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Here we go again. Light Blue insecurities lead to immature responses to an interesting question
Lighten up chaps, behind the banter most agree that the RAF do a decent job. You don't have to 'prove' it with daft comparisons with tanks, parachutes and whether or not the Pongo's have ever faught a credible opposition.
Lighten up chaps, behind the banter most agree that the RAF do a decent job. You don't have to 'prove' it with daft comparisons with tanks, parachutes and whether or not the Pongo's have ever faught a credible opposition.
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any opposition are credible whent their rounds are comming over your head!
doesn't matter if its a 6yo with an AK or a highyly trained spetznaz the effect of the round hitting you is still the same.
doesn't matter if its a 6yo with an AK or a highyly trained spetznaz the effect of the round hitting you is still the same.
...and don't forget the dozens of Jindervik's lying on the bottom in Cardigan Bay!!!!
"oops, I've splashed the playmate" was a pretty regular call in these parts up until recently
"oops, I've splashed the playmate" was a pretty regular call in these parts up until recently
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Here we go again. Light Blue insecurities lead to immature responses to an interesting question
Lighten up chaps, behind the banter most agree that the RAF do a decent job. You don't have to 'prove' it with daft comparisons with tanks, parachutes and whether or not the Pongo's have ever faught a credible opposition.
Lighten up chaps, behind the banter most agree that the RAF do a decent job. You don't have to 'prove' it with daft comparisons with tanks, parachutes and whether or not the Pongo's have ever faught a credible opposition.
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The rather strong inference made by Glum was that the money spent on aircraft that had never shot anything down was a waste. I think it's a fair response to point out that there are plenty of weapon systems that have done likewise, & it is certainly not 'immature' to do so.
BTW, out of interest when did Kings Troop Royal Horse Artillery last deploy in a combat role with their horses?
BTW, out of interest when did Kings Troop Royal Horse Artillery last deploy in a combat role with their horses?
Surely, given how much trade the GR fleets have had in the last 16 years, compared to how little the AD boys have done, it would make more sense to buy a posh new GR aircraft, rather than procure a supposedly world-beating AD aircraft and then try to hang bombs off it? Or am I just being a rotary w**ker again?
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Surely, given how much trade the GR fleets have had in the last 16 years, compared to how little the AD boys have done, it would make more sense to buy a posh new GR aircraft, rather than procure a supposedly world-beating AD aircraft and then try to hang bombs off it? Or am I just being a rotary w**ker again?
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History would say otherwise. Some good fighter aircraft have been used in ground attack roles very effectively SE5A,Spitfire, Hurricane, Phantom etc; However, if you build a bomber and then try and turn it into a fighter then you get... ... well an F3!
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Who counts as credible these days? China? Argentina? Russia?
Who are we likely to take on single-handedly?
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As far as I am aware, the last RAF pilot flying an RAF aircraft to achieve an air-to-air kill was Fg Off Tim McElhaw of 208 Sqn on 22 May 48.
This rather changes the period of the question which by its very nature would indicate that the RAF had shot down something in the Korean War. Maybe it should have read:
How many aircraft have the RAF shot down since WWII?
I guess the answer would be as above. Would appear that the FAA have had a greater success rate than the RAF (with the help of the few) no wonder the RAF were grinning at the demise of the mighty, combat proven
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As far as I am aware, the last RAF pilot flying an RAF aircraft to achieve an air-to-air kill was Fg Off Tim McElhaw of 208 Sqn on 22 May 48.
This rather changes the period of the question which by its very nature would indicate that the RAF had shot down something in the Korean War. Maybe it should have read:
How many aircraft have the RAF shot down since WWII?
I guess the answer would be as above. Would appear that the FAA have had a greater success rate than the RAF (with the help of the few) no wonder the RAF were grinning at the demise of the mighty, combat proven
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I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned the RAF Javelin that "definitely didn't" shoot down an Indonesian Air Force C130 that "definitely wasn't" dropping paratroopers into Malaysia in the mid sixties during Confrontation.
The incident that "definitely didn't happen" was denied at all levels from day one, but I understsnd there were a few ill-disguised smiles to be seen around Tengah at the time.
The incident that "definitely didn't happen" was denied at all levels from day one, but I understsnd there were a few ill-disguised smiles to be seen around Tengah at the time.