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Tornado Support Contract For Bae
News release issued today:
RAF Wyton, United Kingdom. - BAE Systems has been awarded a £947 million contract by the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) that will boost the Tornado aircraft's availability for frontline operations, while considerably reducing the cost to the taxpayer.
The contract, known as ATTAC (Availability Transformation: Tornado Aircraft Contract) will provide guaranteed availability of Tornado aircraft for the RAF, is potentially worth in the region of £1.5 billion and will save the MoD £510 million over the initial 10 years of the programme.
Under the ATTAC service, BAE Systems will work in a partnered approach with the UK MoD's Defence Logistics Organisation (DLO) and the RAF, reflecting principles such as Through Life Capability Management and contracting for availability as set out in the UK Defence Industrial Strategy (DIS).
BAE Systems group managing director Ian King stated: "ATTAC is a pivotal example of the Defence Industrial Strategy in action. It is a major programme in its own right and the benefits will extend far beyond Tornado. We are already transferring the learning gained through the development of ATTAC to provide a support blueprint for new aircraft entering RAF service, such as Typhoon, Nimrod MRA4 and the F-35 Lightning II, and also for other large, complex through-life programmes in the UK and overseas."
Minister for Armed Forces, Adam Ingram, said: "This contract will transform the way we support the Tornado fleet, significantly improve the availability of aircraft to the front-line and deliver savings of around £510million to the UK taxpayer. The operational record of the RAF Tornado aircraft is second-to-none and this innovative contract will ensure that this success continues for many years to come."
BAE Systems has worked with the DLO and RAF on a series of pilot programmes to build confidence that ATTAC will deliver and they have already demonstrated the considerable benefits of working together. For example combined maintenance and upgrade has reduced traditional maintenance manhours by 50 per cent and support to the secondary power system (one of the ATTAC pilot programmes) has been undertaken at 23 per cent less than the historical costs.
Under ATTAC, BAE Systems takes responsibility for "depth" support at RAF Marham (the RAF will continue to carry out day-to-day flightline maintenance) and will combine this with the Capability Development and Sustainment Service (CDSS), which is a structured and cost-effective approach to inserting new capability into the aircraft, to maintain the aircraft's warfighting effectiveness throughout its service life. Overall the company will be responsible for ensuring the required aircraft at an agreed capability are provided to the front line when they are needed.
The pilot programmes will now be subsumed into the overall contract which will have an initial service delivery by mid 2007 and be fully in place by the end of that year. A phase 2 final element will deliver a series of 'supplemental' contracts covering remaining avionics and general systems requirements plus engineering support services by the end of December 2007.
RAF Wyton, United Kingdom. - BAE Systems has been awarded a £947 million contract by the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) that will boost the Tornado aircraft's availability for frontline operations, while considerably reducing the cost to the taxpayer.
The contract, known as ATTAC (Availability Transformation: Tornado Aircraft Contract) will provide guaranteed availability of Tornado aircraft for the RAF, is potentially worth in the region of £1.5 billion and will save the MoD £510 million over the initial 10 years of the programme.
Under the ATTAC service, BAE Systems will work in a partnered approach with the UK MoD's Defence Logistics Organisation (DLO) and the RAF, reflecting principles such as Through Life Capability Management and contracting for availability as set out in the UK Defence Industrial Strategy (DIS).
BAE Systems group managing director Ian King stated: "ATTAC is a pivotal example of the Defence Industrial Strategy in action. It is a major programme in its own right and the benefits will extend far beyond Tornado. We are already transferring the learning gained through the development of ATTAC to provide a support blueprint for new aircraft entering RAF service, such as Typhoon, Nimrod MRA4 and the F-35 Lightning II, and also for other large, complex through-life programmes in the UK and overseas."
Minister for Armed Forces, Adam Ingram, said: "This contract will transform the way we support the Tornado fleet, significantly improve the availability of aircraft to the front-line and deliver savings of around £510million to the UK taxpayer. The operational record of the RAF Tornado aircraft is second-to-none and this innovative contract will ensure that this success continues for many years to come."
BAE Systems has worked with the DLO and RAF on a series of pilot programmes to build confidence that ATTAC will deliver and they have already demonstrated the considerable benefits of working together. For example combined maintenance and upgrade has reduced traditional maintenance manhours by 50 per cent and support to the secondary power system (one of the ATTAC pilot programmes) has been undertaken at 23 per cent less than the historical costs.
Under ATTAC, BAE Systems takes responsibility for "depth" support at RAF Marham (the RAF will continue to carry out day-to-day flightline maintenance) and will combine this with the Capability Development and Sustainment Service (CDSS), which is a structured and cost-effective approach to inserting new capability into the aircraft, to maintain the aircraft's warfighting effectiveness throughout its service life. Overall the company will be responsible for ensuring the required aircraft at an agreed capability are provided to the front line when they are needed.
The pilot programmes will now be subsumed into the overall contract which will have an initial service delivery by mid 2007 and be fully in place by the end of that year. A phase 2 final element will deliver a series of 'supplemental' contracts covering remaining avionics and general systems requirements plus engineering support services by the end of December 2007.
So they're spending an extra £947 million to £1.5 billion in order to save about £500 million. That sounds like good Civil Service accounting.
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Who said anything about this being an 'extra' £947 million? This is money that would have had to have been spent anyway to buy the spares and technical support to support Tornado if we had stayed with the traditional way of doing business.
The savings will be real - because the money's already gone. The trick is going to be ensuring that the service delivery matches the expectation.
The savings will be real - because the money's already gone. The trick is going to be ensuring that the service delivery matches the expectation.
Sounds good until you learn that it isn't aircraft coming out of maintenance that limits Tornado availability, it's more the inability to fix first-line snags due to, in no particular order:-
a) lack of spares
b) lack of manpower
c) lack of experienced manpower
d) lack of test equipment (where did all the stuff from Honington/Laarbruch/Bruggen/Coningsby/Leeming go anyway?)
Not convinced that there would be much difference in Depth if it was all blue-suiters, with that much money thrown at it and the changes in place now? Unfortunately we'll never know.
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a) lack of spares
b) lack of manpower
c) lack of experienced manpower
d) lack of test equipment (where did all the stuff from Honington/Laarbruch/Bruggen/Coningsby/Leeming go anyway?)
Not convinced that there would be much difference in Depth if it was all blue-suiters, with that much money thrown at it and the changes in place now? Unfortunately we'll never know.
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What could go wrong?
In my opinion the IPTs are generally staffed by engineering officers unable to be employed on the front line. As a result you get some (at best) marginal decisions.
Look at the roll-neck situation - I mean what bunch of monkeys could mess up in such a spectactular fashion and stay in a job?
Oh, and the new Im suits, good kit but I really think we should test them fellas!
New G Suits, Face masks, LSJs.... the list goes on and on, all rubbish.
I'm sure if I started making such errors I would be removed by either the system or mates on the Sqn wouldn't want to fly with me.
Merry Christmas to all you guys working hard at Wyton.
Look at the roll-neck situation - I mean what bunch of monkeys could mess up in such a spectactular fashion and stay in a job?
Oh, and the new Im suits, good kit but I really think we should test them fellas!
New G Suits, Face masks, LSJs.... the list goes on and on, all rubbish.
I'm sure if I started making such errors I would be removed by either the system or mates on the Sqn wouldn't want to fly with me.
Merry Christmas to all you guys working hard at Wyton.
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What an outstanding display of ignorance. I appreciate that it is easy to lump all engineers in the 'blunt' box and dismiss the lot as oxy thieves who should be subject to public humiliation at every opportunity but do you really think that you could do any better. But for the presence of experienced ex-front line engineers in the IPTs, the support that you recieve would be far worse than it is; the first question most of them ask when presented with some problem is, "What effect will this have on Ops or at first line?" and not, "Oh goody, another opportunity to p**s off the aircrew!"
If you have any queries about how hard they work at Wyton, call one of the RTSA guys there and they will explain it to you in simple terms.
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So where exactly in the balance sheet does the £80M hangar at Saints go .....
...... you remember, the one that was built just before all the work was taken out of it .....
...... so that Tonkas could be serviced by blue-suiters and not civvies.....
...... you remember, the one that was built just before all the work was taken out of it .....
...... so that Tonkas could be serviced by blue-suiters and not civvies.....
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What an ARRSE!!!
What an absolutely unbelievable statement. As one of those 'engineering officers unable to be employed on the front line' currently employed within an IPT at AbbeyWood, I find your comments both narrow minded and offensive. Can I suggest a stint within either a DLO or DPA based IPT for anyone who believes they could do better; the amount of mind numbing bureaucracy surrounding all aspects of IPT life makes a Soviet gulag seem almost bearable.
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'unable to be employed at the front line'
Now, is that because there are far fewer front line (ie station) posts for JOs because of contractorisation I wonder?
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Now, is that because there are far fewer front line (ie station) posts for JOs because of contractorisation I wonder?
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http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/south...name_page.html
Or another large Tesco / Ikea superstore
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Just a quick note - after front line tours my career path indicated that I had to do a supporting tour in an IPT. It's not that I was 'unable to be employed on the front line' at all. And when the appointer deems it appropriate I will go back to the front line to do some more. 
Anyway, any more engineers want to bite?
Anyway, any more engineers want to bite?
Saints may not have as easy a path as the icwales link story seems to think - there are some ah... concerns over the contract.
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Trying to drag the thread back to somewhere near where it started!.....
"The contract, known as ATTAC (Availability Transformation: Tornado Aircraft Contract) will provide guaranteed availability of Tornado aircraft for the RAF"
I don't know what type of 'guaranteed availability' was agreed in this contract!!! At the last count, there were over a dozen aircraft out of hours, sat gathering dust at the Northern Tornado Base waiting for a slot at this wonderful facility. One of which is not 'booked in' until August 08!
Guaranteed availability for ground training? Towing practice? Spotter visits? Certainly not for flying duties!
Yes, the facility at the Southern Tornado base is new and, in the words of a local Engineering Officer 'not quite up to speed yet'; but yet again the RAF seem to have let a contract that already has us balancing on our back foot.
"The contract, known as ATTAC (Availability Transformation: Tornado Aircraft Contract) will provide guaranteed availability of Tornado aircraft for the RAF"
I don't know what type of 'guaranteed availability' was agreed in this contract!!! At the last count, there were over a dozen aircraft out of hours, sat gathering dust at the Northern Tornado Base waiting for a slot at this wonderful facility. One of which is not 'booked in' until August 08!
Guaranteed availability for ground training? Towing practice? Spotter visits? Certainly not for flying duties!
Yes, the facility at the Southern Tornado base is new and, in the words of a local Engineering Officer 'not quite up to speed yet'; but yet again the RAF seem to have let a contract that already has us balancing on our back foot.
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What happens when you want to 'surge' like Jan 03. Lots of people put in some quality overtime with a common aim. Such work was very appreciated and valued. The lads on the line were proud of their achievement, and the results in terms of a/c on line and numbers deployed speaks for itself.
What will the crowd from Preston do???
What will the crowd from Preston do???
Demand plenty of overtime money at a guess.
Or the slack would be picked up by the blue-suiters in there. Niiiiice.
Or the slack would be picked up by the blue-suiters in there. Niiiiice.
