C-130J Upgrade Programme
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You read some things that just make your blood boil and they are normally posted by f@ckwits with the brains of a duck
"Still, lots of time away on trials eh?"
Who does the trials you ar@e, those at the caolface currently on det after det or the muppets at Boscombe who are civvies, in no hurry and go home every feckin night
"(complete with operator)"..............FOR WHAT FECKIIN USE
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"Still, lots of time away on trials eh?"
Who does the trials you ar@e, those at the caolface currently on det after det or the muppets at Boscombe who are civvies, in no hurry and go home every feckin night
"(complete with operator)"..............FOR WHAT FECKIIN USE
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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The problem is that if you put an additional crewmember onto a 2 man flight deck just to operate a 'new' piece of kit, for 99% of the time he will have NOTHING to do. As that would seem to be a waste of a presumeably highly qualified aircrew person, the temptation would be to give them other jobs, just to fill their time up, such as the radios or reading the FRCs or even God forbid, doing navigation, & before you know it you have a 3 man flight deck because you can't even go to the USA without that person because you've built them into the system.
Or the WSOp(ALM) could do it, with no increase in crew numbers.
Or the WSOp(ALM) could do it, with no increase in crew numbers.
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ABIW:
I've been there you f*ckwit. It was written tongue in cheek, and as per bloody usual you stomp round the forum shooting at stuff like a damn yank.
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And as for the operator, the one needed to operate the piece of kit which has been bolted to the back desk as we can't afford to integrate it. Am I using words which are too long for you to understand, or are you p*ssed?
Ken:
My idea would be to use someone who already has a job on the squadron, such as the loadie. On a normal flight with no defense requirement, you have one loadie. On one requiring the extra kit, you take two. Seems pretty cheap and effective to me...
I've been there you f*ckwit. It was written tongue in cheek, and as per bloody usual you stomp round the forum shooting at stuff like a damn yank.
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And as for the operator, the one needed to operate the piece of kit which has been bolted to the back desk as we can't afford to integrate it. Am I using words which are too long for you to understand, or are you p*ssed?
Ken:
My idea would be to use someone who already has a job on the squadron, such as the loadie. On a normal flight with no defense requirement, you have one loadie. On one requiring the extra kit, you take two. Seems pretty cheap and effective to me...
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By muppets at boscombe i assume you mean the guys who work damn hard to clear the kit you need as fast as possible. Maybe the same guys who were working the J before you had ever seen one. I can tell you that having spent time with the semi trained flems at lyneham i can see why they send the trials to us for a safe conclusion. Stones and glass houses abiw
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Just to put this J Versus K argument into perspective, it would be interesting to know what some of you guys/gals actually do.
Mr Bernoulli
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You chaps are openly hostile to the J, you wouldn't happen to be Navs or Air Eng's would you? (Or is that a ridiculously obvious question?)
For what it's worth, I've been an 'passenger' (don't ask!) on both types and I know which one I want the next time. It's the one with plenty of room on the Flight Deck and enought umph to get my boys and their boxes to where we need to go.
Mr Bernoulli
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nigegilb
You chaps are openly hostile to the J, you wouldn't happen to be Navs or Air Eng's would you? (Or is that a ridiculously obvious question?)
For what it's worth, I've been an 'passenger' (don't ask!) on both types and I know which one I want the next time. It's the one with plenty of room on the Flight Deck and enought umph to get my boys and their boxes to where we need to go.
