Scrap the RAF

[London Mil]

SASless, it would be interesting to see the evidence. In my book, one set of comments from an individual doesn't necessarily mean theat the entire RAF are "utterly, utterly....". maybe someone should be out there collating/disseminating evidence that the RAF are actually delivering in many areas?

[Arthur's Wizard]

The RAF are utterly utterly useless.

There you go, that's two people's comments. Surely that makes it true

[blodwyn]

That makes the assumption that it has value !

[L J R]

The largest AIR FORCE is actually the US Army!

[mikip]

Why all the recent fuss about scrapping the RAF isn't that what successive governments have been slowly doing for the last 30 years or so?

[Two's in]

I think the name of the letter's author, "Richard Need", is probably a typo of the formal contraction, "Dick Weed".

[SASless]

Originally Posted by L J R

The largest AIR FORCE is actually the US Army!

The Largest Navy is the US Army....really!


http://www.usmm.org/armynavy.html

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

?? Navy or Army?

Or was that satire?

[althenick]

How about this
We have not 1 but 2 RAF's - One for the navy and one for the Army
Think about it, Both RAF(RN) and RAF(Army) personell could assimilate to their parent Services (Uniform/Rank etc). For assets that aren't controlled by the other 2 services then a Home command could be formed Jointly by the 2 RAF's.
Thinking out loud again...

[ORAC]

And you could call them the Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Navy Air Service. Then we could have a committee on how to coordinate them and the tricky bit about how to divide up the blue and green bits to defend an island......

[Wader2]

Originally Posted by althenick

We have not 1 but 2 RAF's - One for the navy and one for the Army: RAF(RN) and RAF(Army) personel could assimilate to their parent Services (Uniform/Rank etc). For assets that aren't controlled by the other 2 services then a Home command could be formed Jointly by the 2 RAF's.

Great Idea.

Then under CAS we could have CAS(RN), CAS(Army) and CAS(Air). Then of course we would need the approproriate DCAS, VCAS etc. If each type is nominally in STC/1Gp then we would need . . .

[Melchett01]

We have not 1 but 2 RAF's - One for the navy and one for the Army

Now what would we call these air forces? I know, how about the Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Naval Air Service

And who would decide which personnel were assimilated into which service? Whilst I have a lot of admiration for both the AAC and FAA crews, I have to say I'd rather go and work for Richard Branson's air force than the army or navy. Most people join the RAF because of the 3 services, that is the one that lets them do the job they want, but also because the air force ethos and way of doing things appeals more than the army or navy's. Any forced assimilation would only lead to an even bigger flood of people heading towards the exit.

[scroggs]

The Canadians went down this road several years ago. In fact, they went further: they combined all three services into a single command/rank/uniform structure. It was, by all accounts, an unmitigated disaster. They have since returned to a three-service structure, though with a broadly purple top end.

[Kitbag]

Originally Posted by Melchett01

Any forced assimilation would only lead to an even bigger flood of people heading towards the exit.

And wouldn't that just suit the politicians of all parties?

[Navaleye]

If we got rid of the RAF the Navy would only have the Army to bitch about and that wouldn't be much fun.

[LunchMonitor]

So, if they scrap the RAF then would we all be made redundant, obviously being paid redundancy, and then be expected to sign new contracts/apply to join the Navy/Army?

[HEDP]

No but you might be expected to work for a living for a change!

[Army Mover]

Originally Posted by LunchMonitor

So, if they scrap the RAF then would we all be made redundant, obviously being paid redundancy, and then be expected to sign new contracts/apply to join the Navy/Army?

Just hope they don't offer you statutory redundancy - it will come as a shock to some. Check this out:

http://www.dti.gov.uk/cgi-bin/er_reconner.pl

[Navaleye]

You wouldn't even get that. I'm afraid "continuation of employment" comes into play and your contracts would be transferred to your new employer.

[BluntedAtBirth]

Originally Posted by ORAC

And you could call them the Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Navy Air Service. Then we could have a committee on how to coordinate them and the tricky bit about how to divide up the blue and green bits to defend an island......

To stict to form they should technically be the Military and Navy Wings of the Royal Flying Corps for about 2 years while everyone ignores the destinction...