RAF Uniform - What do you think?
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Allan,
I think 2nd right is B*b T*****s not long after winning the SAC Navigation Trophy for night celestial navigation. Extreme left could be F***k L** but not sure. I recognise, but cannot name, the extreme right, AEO I think.
I think 2nd right is B*b T*****s not long after winning the SAC Navigation Trophy for night celestial navigation. Extreme left could be F***k L** but not sure. I recognise, but cannot name, the extreme right, AEO I think.
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Pontious 2nd right correct, extreme left I think correct, extreme right was a nav - I think Nav Radar - but unfortunately don't have the names on the back of the photo.
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Could be Worse!
The boots are a bit much but at least he is wearing his wings and the chipbag is the only bit of RFC uniform we have left. We need to stop being scared of being seen as different and pretending we are in the Army. One thing they don't do is dress the same! As for GDT in flying suits I guess for that training for war one should wear what you would go to war in....not what keeps the Regt happy!
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The brown gloves for officers are the last vestiges of the RFC I think, the RNAS gave us eagle/albatross badges. Pop over to Cosford if you get a chance, they have a display of uniforms from 1914 to date and you can trace fashions through the years
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I particularly like the 1000 mission hat, tall of peak, flat of sides. Reminds me of an early SD hat of mine - a "Bates" IIRC, can you still get them? So much smarter than the frying pan version often sold nowadays.
And didn't the Luftwaffe often fly in a very smart leather jacket, or was that just in the film The Battle of Britain?
And didn't the Luftwaffe often fly in a very smart leather jacket, or was that just in the film The Battle of Britain?
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I particularly like the cap at the required jaunty angle (some might even say rakish), the gay roll neck sweater, and the 'wurst' around the waist (presumably in-flight rations for a quick snack between bouncing schpitfeur). Donner und blitzen, those were the days.
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Why do all Air Force officers wear flying suits in ops rooms (some times deep underground) for NATO exercises.Even if they are not, and never have been, aircrew? I mean, if I wore my submariners roll neck you would think I was mad.
Ps. Our gloves are also ,brown so you got them from the RNAS too. There was a whole thread about that. Other bits of RNAS include the rank of Flight Lieutenant and the rank stripe system. You used to have gold stripes on your day No 1s as well as mess kit (Recently re introduced by your Band Masters.)
Your officers Cap Badge is very much like the RNAS one. Eagle replacing the RN fouled anchor. I believe your officers buttons are like RNAS ones.Your sword just replaces our lions head with an eagle's. Of course your black tie came from the RNAS. The style of uniform came from the army as did your shoes and boots. Ours do not have toe caps. lastly, going back to the original pic, your salute came from the army because unlike sailors, airmen never get their hands dirty! (As did the outrageous custom of sitting down wearing a cap behind a desk to deliver an interview with or with out coffee.)
Ps. Our gloves are also ,brown so you got them from the RNAS too. There was a whole thread about that. Other bits of RNAS include the rank of Flight Lieutenant and the rank stripe system. You used to have gold stripes on your day No 1s as well as mess kit (Recently re introduced by your Band Masters.)
Your officers Cap Badge is very much like the RNAS one. Eagle replacing the RN fouled anchor. I believe your officers buttons are like RNAS ones.Your sword just replaces our lions head with an eagle's. Of course your black tie came from the RNAS. The style of uniform came from the army as did your shoes and boots. Ours do not have toe caps. lastly, going back to the original pic, your salute came from the army because unlike sailors, airmen never get their hands dirty! (As did the outrageous custom of sitting down wearing a cap behind a desk to deliver an interview with or with out coffee.)
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Why do all Air Force officers wear flying suits in ops rooms (some times deep underground) for NATO exercises.Even if they are not, and never have been, aircrew?
Though if I had one, and had the option of wearing it instead of a full set of DPMs, wooly-pully, boots etc in a bl**dy hot ops room, I might have tried to get away with it......
ps1. If attached "type/role SMEs" had a Sqn or aircraft badge on, it made find the right person to ask a question a bit easier.
ps2. If anti-flash was so vital, how come the NLOs never brought their´s along with them?
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KD uniforms (Khaki Drill) were always open to personal taste. Note the Flight Sergeant far right, Blacksheep will remember his name. Taken at Luqa, I think, 67. His particular Khaki was, I’ll guarantee, bought at Charlie’s in Tengah Village.
Charlie, “Ah, wot correr Fright Sergeant like his KD?” “A pale cream perhaps, with just a hint of puce”. “No probrem, ready 1 hour”.
My own kit was enhanced by an Aussie bush hat liberated from Darwin, back row second from left.
Charlie, “Ah, wot correr Fright Sergeant like his KD?” “A pale cream perhaps, with just a hint of puce”. “No probrem, ready 1 hour”.
My own kit was enhanced by an Aussie bush hat liberated from Darwin, back row second from left.
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ORAC, "On NATO exercises" I supose I should have said "In Maritime Ops on NATO exercises". I only sleep (and drink) at Bently Priory now and again, not work there. Sorry.
Also this never happens at Faslane where the only people in Ops wearing "you can't see me suits" are pongos and booties. Freshly laundered light blue shirts much in evidence. (Unlike PJHQ, were we are all guilty!)
ps1. Anti flash is a loan item, not personal issue. (It is very useful on 5 Nov if you can scrounge some!)
ps2. Was always a little bit sceptical about the Imperial Russian thing but have just seen todays Telegraph (on line as well). I am now convinced. Look at the pics of the guard with the old Tsarina's coffin.
Also this never happens at Faslane where the only people in Ops wearing "you can't see me suits" are pongos and booties. Freshly laundered light blue shirts much in evidence. (Unlike PJHQ, were we are all guilty!)
ps1. Anti flash is a loan item, not personal issue. (It is very useful on 5 Nov if you can scrounge some!)
ps2. Was always a little bit sceptical about the Imperial Russian thing but have just seen todays Telegraph (on line as well). I am now convinced. Look at the pics of the guard with the old Tsarina's coffin.
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Hairy blues
CS 95??? Fit for woozes onlyAs for working with the army - I spent about 3 years attached to 24 Brigade as part of an FAC team. The RAF issued me with 1939 pattern webbing - the army told me to keep it in the back of my locker and gave me 1959 pattern webbing. The RAF issued me with a pair of CWW (cold, wet weather) boots that weighed a ton - the army told me to keep them in my locker too and gave me proper DMS boots. My finest hour during my time with 24 Bde was during a winter exercise in Northern Germany - cold, wet, muddy and living in 2-man bivouacs. The AOC decided to visit but it appears someone did not give him or his ADC a proper briefing because he turned up in his very best number 1 Home Dress complete with greatcoat and shoes (no sword though) - watching him tippy-toeing around the duckboards trying not to slip flat on his back was a delight! The army thought it hilarious and just another of the RAF's eccentric customs.
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I guess because we can! And probably like Gen Moseley,
http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/new...aw092506p2.xml
after a full career, I'm running out of shirts that I have to buy but the Government provide me with a flying suit free!
Foldy
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after a full career, I'm running out of shirts that I have to buy but the Government provide me with a flying suit free!
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What looks better and gets the message across? Smart BDU and chest of medals that people try and count or a flight suit with operational patches that everyone recognises as operational air force?
Whitehall warrior in a TV studio in what looks like an overseas tropical uniform or one in CS95 in somewhere that looks hot and dusty?
Don't know if the pic will take but is of the CAS.
Whitehall warrior in a TV studio in what looks like an overseas tropical uniform or one in CS95 in somewhere that looks hot and dusty?
Don't know if the pic will take but is of the CAS.