Vc-10 Mel
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I know.............................and it's called taking the piss !! 
I quite often see the Brize Norton Memorial Flight (BNMF) flying about near my abode in Wiltshire.
Oh, I'm still in the Royal Air Force too in my spare time - until my sense of humour completely runs out !!
Regards.
I quite often see the Brize Norton Memorial Flight (BNMF) flying about near my abode in Wiltshire.
Oh, I'm still in the Royal Air Force too in my spare time - until my sense of humour completely runs out !!
Regards.
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Thay all depends on whose terms it is on - definately mine !! Makes a change from charging around the world and I get plenty of time off in which to do it. Maybe it's because I only did 9 and a bit years in the RAF and I've still got a good sense of humour !! When it's no fun I'll give it up.
When it's no fun I'll give it up.
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Beags,
You are the expert and I do not want to cross horns but I am sure on My TriStar training that the ELRAT was defined as Emergency Lowered Ram Air Turbine??
Basically used to teach the guys never to walk under airframe near the thing as stowed under pressure and wouold severely injure if deployed....
You are the expert and I do not want to cross horns but I am sure on My TriStar training that the ELRAT was defined as Emergency Lowered Ram Air Turbine??
Basically used to teach the guys never to walk under airframe near the thing as stowed under pressure and wouold severely injure if deployed....
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I wouldn't be the first time two manufacturers have used the same acronym for different things. In this case BEagle would appear to be correct: VC10.net.
Simple answer to the acronym situation. Back in the VC10 days ELRAT stood for ELectrical Ram Air Turbine to make sure it wasn't mistaken for the HYRAT which was the HYdraulic Ram Air Turbine. (see photo here with both deployed: http://www.vc10.net/Memories/Images/Elrat.jpg, ELRAT on right) In the end the HYRAT was never fitted to the production aircraft but the main reason for the ELRAT was to provide power for the flying controls which, as Beagle pointed out, were electrical. Since then almost every airliner or large transport (the Tristar is of course less prehistoric than the VC10) has had hydraulically powered flying controls and so the main purpose for a RAT became provision of hydraulic power. The name must have stuck though.
(Thanks for the plug ORAC, but it did remind me that I need to update that page one day
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(Thanks for the plug ORAC, but it did remind me that I need to update that page one day
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ELRAT Voltage regulators had a problem with a bank of capicitors in them. Cant remember the exact Lim but it was only until they had all been changed. As for testing there was a test for on the ground using a great big rig with a fan to blow the thing round. Never saw it used but it was in a hangar at Brize some time in the early 80's when all the ex BA tens whre brought by MOD PE.
And yes Panel PA is where the Regulator sits. Not a nice job setting it up while flying circuits as I remember.
And yes Panel PA is where the Regulator sits. Not a nice job setting it up while flying circuits as I remember.
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Back to the MEL or Go - No go.
I once had a VC-10 captain sat with an aircraft full of passengers who refused to take the aircraft unless someone turned up with lemon for his tea.
Of course he got it.......
I once had a VC-10 captain sat with an aircraft full of passengers who refused to take the aircraft unless someone turned up with lemon for his tea.
Of course he got it.......
I'm sure that the stewards were able to find something suitable to add to his tea....
No wonder people used to have disdain for the shiny fleet!
No wonder people used to have disdain for the shiny fleet!
Funny old thing, I saw in last weeks flight that the the A380 will be fitted with a RAT to provide emergency electrical power to one control service in each axis. Very forward design the old Vickers Fun Bus
